Eubank Sr: Me & Roy outworked everyone, Brook & Khan pair of quitters

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  1. Bulldog24

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    ‘Simply the Best’ Chris Eubank was one of the great characters of British sport in the 1990s, a polarising figure who divided opinion and changed the game in many ways.

    Here he points out why he was as successful as he was and why he never reached the heights of ‘Pound for Pound’ elite in the US. As well as a Khan-Brook prediction of sorts.


    On putting in the work:

    You get out what you put in. What I put in was seven days a week, three times a day from 1982. I have read Roy Jones Jr would start his roadwork for his next fight just hours after his previous fight on that very night.

    It’s no coincidence that by 1995 we were the last two standing in boxing without defeat. That’s how the Universe works.

    Every Christmas Day, Birthday, Thanksgiving, New Years - it didn’t matter. I was in that gym. And it wasn’t David Lloyd or Disneyland; I was walking past used needles on the concrete steps, and placing buckets to catch water from the holes in the roof.


    On his number one fight idol:

    My favourite fighter was one you would not have heard of. His name was Dennis Cruz, a 130lb southpaw. He was like water in there. I tried to mimic him in sparring, but in competition I would seize up and the tap would turn off and on if you like which was most effective for me to keep winning.

    I simply wasn’t as good as Dennis Cruz, as much as I wanted to be. In the gym, nobody was, really.



    On preparing for war:

    There were gym fighters like Johnny Walker Banks, a 154lber, who got the best of Marvin Hagler in their gym fights. He would beat the crap out of me as a teenager. That’s how I got so extremely good. You learn by taking beatings in the gym.

    The trenches became like home to me. So that gives you an immense confidence knowing you can be taken that far and feel comfortable with being uncomfortable.

    Certainly Nigel Benn in 1990 took me there. Along with Tyson he was the most explosive figher in the world.

    Michael Watson in the second fight fought so far beyond himself that he took me beyond and into realm of life or death on a knife edge or tight rope, which I’ve never seen in combat before or since; a moment as such.

    To climb up and out of the trenches and walk into the firing line is the ultimate if you prevail. Nothing can top that, having been comprehensively out-gunned for nearly 11 rounds.


    On fighting anybody:

    I didn’t duck anybody, and certainly not Roy Jones as that’s a fight that would’ve propelled me to the top of the so called pound for pound list had I won. Before I made £10million with Sky though, Roy Jones was just a contender and already the best pound for pound fighter before it was actually confirmed, so what sense would that of made?

    Unless an opponent was made mandatory challenger I had no obligation to go out of my way and fight a certain opponent. When there were top Americans in the number one contender position for my title, I agreed to take the fights only to find they pulled out. That’s a duck on their part. I think it was Lyle or Little.

    A certain fighter came along at the end of my reign and notoriously ducked another fighter, something I would never have done. I even stepped in and took the beating for him because I wanted respect. It was never really about money, not deep down. I wanted the respect.

    That’s why I stepped up two weights to face Carl Thompson, who later stopped heavyweight David Haye. David of course went on to blow away many heavyweights and face giants without going over. I even had bad knees by this time so couldn’t move like I wanted to. I didn’t bother clinching. I wanted respect.


    On Brook v Khan:

    It may come down to who taps first. They both want to redeem themselves, so neither will want to tap. Another factor is who can remain objective. If you hate your opponent, you’re trying to hurt him and being subjective. You’re not trying to score points.

    So my prediction is this: I don’t know because I’m not in either man’s psyche.


    On his special performance v Brit Wharton:

    Henry Wharton very nearly broke my will. And, in fact, I had just about had enough of boxing after that fight.

    That was my sixth world title defense in 10 months - five of those six had gone 12 rounds, three of them had been overseas, three of them southpaws, two of them in the most hostile of lions dens, one of them 7000feet above sea level - and Henry Wharton took every punch in the book and all sorts of combinations thrown at breakneck speed; he just kept asking for more. That kind of hunger, for a purse a fraction of mine, killed a part of my spirit.

    It’s hard to perform at world-class elite level every six or seven weeks - facing awkward southpaws or in awkward environments - so that lack of consistency and lack of USA exposure when I jumped ship to Sky is why I wasn’t near the top of the pound for pound listings which is what my ability probably warranted, as shown for 12 rounds straight against Mr Wharton.

    Another factor in that respect is Nigel Benn’s constant bobbing and weaving - like out of the blue - in our second fight being so super effective; as it was against Gerald McClellan. I wasn’t prepared for that because he hadn’t shown that before. I had prepared to put on a masterclass against the usual Benn.
     
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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Brook quit because eye orbital bone was damaged.
     
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  3. destruction

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    What everyone wants to know is who would win in a fight between Eubank Sr and Eubank Jr at MW.

    I know Senior said he may have built junior too well prior to the Groves fight.

    How would the father vs son battle have played out?

    If Junior got his tactics right and swarmed senior. Would he be able to win a decision on activity alone? We all know how Senior used to love time off during rounds to rest
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Brook took big shots v a heavy hitting middleweight without quiting.
     
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  5. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it’s a silly mismatch. Jr hasn’t won one world title fight by 33, Sr won about 17 by 27.
     
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    Junior hasn`t proven himself yet.
     
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    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jr hasn't really achieved that much hiis best win is probaly a shot Abraham and DeGale. Both of which were the same level as shot to s*** as Haye in his last few years. The two times he stepped up he got beat. Jr is more athletic as Snr would like to rest and take rounds off. Tactically though Jr pretty weak as he's had a do it all attitude when he should be listening to more experienced people around him and that's held back his depelopment. Sr gives Jr a bit of a beating.
     
  10. Serge

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    Brook's orbital socket had been shattered by a MW who can punch holes in castle walls and who dozens of pros, from LMW to HW, are on record saying is the hardest puncher they've shared a ring with or that his power is ridiculous.

    And the reason Brook stepped in at the final minute to take the fight is because Eubank's son quit at the finding your pen stage.

    And Khan did not quit. Allow the esteemed trainer Virgil Hunter to explain what happened.

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    Warning! Major Irony Leak Detected!!
     
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    It doesn’t matter what the injury, he wanted no more.
     
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    When Thornton was still very good (before the shoulder surgery and premature retirement)
     
  13. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Has he even won the Commonwealth yet?
     
  14. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah he fought for it against Saunders and well lost.
    He had the British. and the super coveted IBO at Super Middle but as I got one of those in a Christmas cracker last year that's not saying too much.
     
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    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does anyone really care what this clown thinks?