Would Nunn Have Being Monzon s Downfall??

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  1. CleneloAnavarez

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  3. clum

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    At least when people pit Buster Douglas in fantasy matchups against significantly better opponents, they have the good sense to use the qualifier of "Tokyo Douglas" being the one in the fight. Nunn's two (count 'em) excellent performances were almost as anomalous within the context of his whole career as Douglas' magical night was. Nunn likely gives his usual sluggish effort and comes nowhere near winning.

    Or maybe middleweight Starling would have given Monzon a tough night as well.
     
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  4. he grant

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    He was a welter but why bother w details ..
     
  5. clum

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    That's right. His tough fight with Nunn made me forget for a second that he wasn't a natural middle.

    With his victories over Starling and Curry in 1990, Nunn really should have tried to get a fight made with Honeyghan that year and proved himself the undisputed top welter of 1985.
     
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    Troll I see.. got it ..
     
  7. Mod-Mania

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    Nope Monzon would beat him.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I think he meant Starling was middleweight when he fought Nunn, which is true.
     
  9. clum

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    I'm definitely being provocative here, maybe more than I should, but I'm not trolling.

    Nunn's performance against Tate was indeed a beautiful exhibition, but it seems to have mesmerized people into thinking that was the real Nunn. In reality, he never looked like that again. The typical Nunn outing was more along the lines of his dull, not terribly convincing wins over beatable Barkley and powerless Starling fighting at middleweight. Knocking out Kalambay in the first was a great, great outcome, but he's not going to do that to Monzon, so that fight doesn't leave me with much to go on for this specific matchup.

    Rather than saying that Nunn was a special fighter (he could have been but ultimately wasn't), I'd say that Nunn vs. Tate was a special night. If you want to bet on Nunn replicating that performance against an ATG fighter, go ahead, but he never did it in real life.
     
  10. Journeyman92

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    Morlocks?
     
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    Even if he loses he has the GOAT nickname.
     
  12. he grant

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    Understood. Wanted to hear the alt say it …
     
  13. Richard M Murrieta

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    In the era of Carlos Monzon, the champions fought a manly 15 rounds not a weaker 12 rounds. Carlos retired as champion on August 29 1977, 14 title defenses, Michael Nunn though fast could have not beaten King Carlos Monzon, Nunn was a flash in the pan, not around long enough to retire as champion, he lost his title in the ring, Monzon never lost his title in the ring. They say speed kills, in this instance speed could get Nunn killed, one right hand from Monzon and Nunn would look like the Flying Nunn.
     
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  14. fists of fury

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    Monzon is a protected species around here. Excellent middleweight, but he had his flaws like everyone else.

    Nunn at his best gives Monzon all he could handle, IMO.
     
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  15. Richard M Murrieta

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    Your opinion respected but Nun could not hit hard enough to make Carlos Monzon respect him, very feather fisted, why did Michael Nunn not retire as champion like Carlos Monzon did, 1970- 1977.
     
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