Prime Louis Versus Lewis

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  1. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis would go after Louis like he went after Golota.
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    That might well make things a lot easier for Louis.

    I mean if he kept him at range, he would at least give him a bit of a puzzle to solve.
     
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  3. moneytheman12

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    golota moved better then joe he used lateral movement and could threw combos while turning his body and could throw while moving which Blind people act like they cant see the difference

    it's really nobody to compare to joe since they all moved better joe was so basic he missed mutiple stuff Andrew had who was that same style but way more advanced then joe like I said uptop yet lies like joe was more skilled then anybody yet missing advances like I always say/said others had in 70s-90s
    anybody who can see good can see even Andrew was more skilled and moved better by a good amount

    watch the crazy people lie here and say how joe moved better and was more skilled when neither is on vid
     
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  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty sure Lewis would fight against Louis like he did against Holyfield, because unlike a lot of posters here Lewis wasn't dumb fighter.
     
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    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is next level analysis. Can't disagree with that, otherwise you are blind fool.
     
  6. CleneloAnavarez

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    Holyfield >>> Louis. Lewis doesn't need to show respect to a dinosaur like Louis.
     
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    Ditto
     
  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis is a human being, just like Lewis and Holyfield. The difference in 50 years can't change that.
     
  9. janitor

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    Why don't you do a little tactical assessment here.

    We are matching Lewis against one of the most dangerous finishers of all time, and he does not have the best chin, but he does at least have a significant advantage in height and reach.

    Your advice to Lewis would be to throw away his biggest advantage, by turning it into a brawl with Louis?

    Would that be a smart strategy?
     
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    I'm convinced. Thanks for awakening me.

    Jab, pivot, catching and shooting, parrying, walking opponents onto uppercuts, triple left hooks, right hands through guards, changing the punch trajectory mid punch.

    I would be interested in you explaining the punches and techniques that Mercer and the liked of Rahman could do that Joe couldn't. Would you be able to reference the specific fights that we could see these skills and the fights in which Joe didn't in his prime (not fights against Charles, Marciano and Walcott)?

    If you want examples of Joe's movement, watch the evasive footwork against Max Baer in the first couple of rounds until he punches the threat out of Max's right hand and it's just a matter of time as Max is resigned to his chin keeping him in the fight as long as possible. Triple left hooks, jab and parries, vicious right hands through and over the apprehensive defence that Max tried to keep.

    But, of course, Joe had no skills, no footwork and isn't known as one of the greatest combination punchers of all time.

    Out of interest, how would you rate the movement of Mantequilla and Chocolatito? Let's see if you recognise the commonalities.
     
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    I can show you vid of how joe moved compared and you will be able to see the difference in the movement the matches of said boxer doesnt matter look at the whole cause thats where I look that doesnt work with me that's a known quote to use the max fight which is odd cause it wasnt impressive compared or was it updated

    look here at him fighting max
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    joe is using good punch angles but they are basic in the way he is throwing them he is using good punches for people like max who stands there joe is moving at times like you said using movement but he doesnt throw much when throwing cause he doesnt feel comfortable or is he as smooth throwing when moving as when he is standing still

    while he is standing he looks stiff mostly and not showing good defense just trading max wasnt a hard person to get away from
    alot of times looks uptight by the hunching of shoulders and hesitated of throwing

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    rah seen here able to pick shots good doesnt look uptight able to move smoothly while standing still and moving short breakdown of him

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    sometimes wild in his throwing but still never as off balance as the joe era

    able to pick shots good to like rah while moving and standing and able to use good defense on the move and standing doesnt look stiff ether

    that lie quote of joe being the most skilled cause I exposed that last year as a lie so why your repeating it like time didnt show more boxers is odd cause these 2 had way more skill them him and others I wont name joe only looked good as I said when the person was standing still

    and no joe skills was trash compared he wasnt last a round cause of being so outdated he for fact would have to advance yesterday I was told a compare of golata who was a tiptoer like joe but moved better and had advances like throwing of shows while moving the body from angles and better defense

    we dont have any boxers who moved like joe that we can compare cause most who are or was like him as a tiptoer wasnt as stiff or basic they all were more advanced and more skilled even if they were a mid card

    for you people to keep repeating that dumb quote of Joe was more skilled yet lacking the advances of movement and skill is odd as if we dont have vid exposing that as a lie from mutiple fighters
     
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    no you are the one blind saying how max had good movement when he didnt or joe could beat lennox yet never facing anybody like him and moving way to outdated to even land you like exposing yourself like others I just call you on it i can keep my mouth shut and you still expose yourself as being blind and a liar

    you people have a thought of how those were in Joe's day I know what I see on vid it's a difference
     
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  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Andrew was having an anxiety attack from the minute he walked into the ring. The Big Dog could do that to alotta fighters, Ruddock being one, Bowe wouldn't even fight him. Joe Louis whatever few shortcomings he had isn't gonna punk out and cower away when the fists start flying. If Lennox got overly aggressive here he might well be giving the Brown Bomber an opening that could cost him.
     
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    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Golota moved well against Lennox. I especially loved the way he gets nailed, runs away right into his corner and begs for mercy and puts up 0 resistance. Joe Louis isn't capable of that. If the Brown Bomber is going down he's firing leather on the way. His hands were a blur in his prime.
     
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  15. janitor

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    So Louis is was a dinosaur.

    Tell me, is there any terrestrial predator around today, that would have lasted more than a few seconds against a T rex?

    Just because something is newer, it isn't necessarily better.
     
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