Thoughts on Eubank Jr’s performance…

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  1. Thefatprinceofwincobank

    Thefatprinceofwincobank Rhino stoppers Full Member

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    None of the lads at world level will have watched it and thought I don’t want any of that smoke blowing my way!
     
  2. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just seen a george groves interview where he said eubank spent most of the fight out of punching range. I think there lies the problem....roy too spent a lot of his fights out of punching range but because he was ridiculously talented he coud somehow get himself into punching range from a bad starting position. But i,ve still never seen anyone being able to do that like roy since roy.

    You cant really train people to be able to do the things roy got away with imo.
     
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  3. koartist2012

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    junior getting a lot of stick , but its akin to being 4-0 up in a semi final ,you simply let the other team have the ball and sit back ,he was nigh on 8 points up after 4 rounds. For all his talk , cant help but feel that type of loss will bother williams far worse than getting koed in a bloodbath , he was dropped , schooled , taunted , even the way eubank was pointing to the floor if your about that life as he alluded to lol , ive never been eubanks biggest fan and im welsh , but williams and the fans deserved every second of that . Also the narrative of golovkin being 40 etc now , has he ever lost a fight ? canelo 2 the only fight i could see anyone scoring against him , but because now eubank is next in line ,discredit it him just in case he does the unthinkable , for contrast golovkin now is far closer to his prime than tszyu was when hatton fought him. I hope junior get a legit world title before he hangs them up
     
  4. UndergroundBoxing

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    Yeah the best fighters don’t usually make great trainers because they expect everyone to pick it up easy and do the things they were able to do. This is the case here with Roy and Chris Jr. Eubank will never be able to do what Roy did
     
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  5. dragon666

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    I think his athleticism is better than his boxing ability. I don't think Jermall Charlo is that special. He's quite mediocre and hittable.

    Eubank Jr looked like a super middleweight and Williams looked physically smaller and closer to a junior middleweight. I think Eubank's movement was excessive and he needs to learn to pace himself better. He needs to improve his defense and refine his jab.

    Eubank looked fresh early on but all the excessive movement i think was needlessly slowing him down. I was on the hype train with Williams before the Liam Smith 1 fight and i thought he was hard done by in that contest. I think he just lacks the ring iq and he struggles with movement and distance. I also don't believe he's actually a middleweight. He should go back down in weight in my opinion.

    I'm not Eubank Jr's biggest fan but he does have experience at this point even if his biggest fight he lost against Groves. He needs to learn to pace himself better or he will be in trouble against the top dogs.

    Jr is a super middleweight now. He needs to fight other super middleweights. If he fights Golovkin he might shockingly actually beat him at this point. Who knows what Golovkin has left.
     
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  6. bbjc

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    Totally agree. Seems to be the same mistake they make over and over again. Believing anyone can be taught to do the things that they could do...when really they we,re mostly extremely talented or had brilliant natural attributes for it anyway.

    You can see roys added things to his game that would have helped chris junior....but on the whole imo hes worse off than before roy.

    I think technically chris is so poor being late to the game etc...he had to fight and train the way he did to get success. He was becoming a bit of a handful at one point. If roy could have took him and added to his game whilst keeping him the same it would of worked. But seems their trying to create something chris will never be able to become.
     
  7. EJC83

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    Never in his career has Jnr shown anything that would trouble any version of Golovkin, posing and posturing and trying to stay out of range won't work, Golovkin will still win more rounds.
     
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  8. Willis Brown

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    I was quite impressed with Chris Eubanks Jnr for first few rounds and whilst it’s easy to accuse him of being a Poundland RJJ if nothing else it shows that he is capable of being coached. However he should have pressed his advantage and looked to have taken out Williams ,now that would have sent out a message. Given that Williams is a decent domestic/euro standard middleweight someone with World Championship ambition Jnr should have done a better job . GGG will have had to deteriorated a lot before I would give Jnr a chance of victory.
     
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  9. Bulldog24

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    Apparently he broke his left hand at the end of the 4th. That explains a lot
     
  10. dragon666

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    Derevychenko (who lost to Charlo and Jacobs) gave Golovkin some trouble and some argue he deserved the win.

    Golovkin is getting on in age and he may show rapid decline by the time he steps in the ring again. I don't think it's that far fetched. We'll see if it ever happens.
     
  11. Howitzer1888

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    Bar the knockdowns Eubank didn’t really do much good all fight.
    Despite all the running about he wasn’t acc that hard to hit - Williams’ jab was landing consistently throughout.
    Then of course his punching was just lame, no combinations really to speak of and just winging uppercuts which pretty much all missed.
    Imo outside the four knockdowns he actually lost most of the other rounds. He didn’t perform well and his bravado on top just made him look like a complete moron.
     
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  12. Cookiedough

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    Eubanks posturing and showboating was a waste of energy. If he put as much effort into stopping Williams, he may of had half a chance of doing just that. Eubank spoke about wanting to make Williams suffer due to his comments in the build up. An excuse for not being able to get Williams out of there? I don’t think it is. Williams just didn’t disappear, and imo was never in serious trouble, neither was Eubank capable of putting him there, or he would of imo. Williams also played his part in the fight and boxed very well considering his position on the scorecards and knockdowns. The knockdowns did surprise me. The punches just didn’t look that venomous. I know they don’t have to and timing and speed can cause chaos, but the rumour about weight loss in the week prior to the fight doesn’t help. What I do know is when Eubank once again creeps the levels up, he will be found wanting if he carries on like he did in that fight. More substance, less BS.
     
  13. Donald Donaldson

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    This more or less sums it up for me.

    I thought it was a lazy, frustrating performance from Eubank Jnr.

    3 knock downs in 4 rounds, and you allow your opponent to go the full 12?

    Liam Williams was there for the taking from round 2 onwards. That second knock down was a better shot than the first and he took an 7-8 count. After that, you surely have to take the opportunity which is clearly there and get a stoppage. Instead he danced around the ring, showboated, and spoiled what could have been a dramatic and conclusive finish.

    Some of his antics towards the later part of the fight were embarrassing I thought. I think he has overall regressed and at the moment he is a bizarre mix of styles and ideas which don't really blend together very well. His best asset is his stamina, hand speed and toughness. Yet he slowed down so much and now throws so few punches at times it's hard to see why he is standing off a man who he has dropped 3 times in 4 rounds and who is smaller and weaker than him.

    It was a strange and to be honest not very good fight. It doesn't give me much confidence of his chances at true world level.
     
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  14. EJC83

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    Jnr also looks fragile at the weight now, I always think that, past 126, if you look skinny at the weight you're no longer making it healthily
     
  15. Steady

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    Groves is on the the money with his analysis