Could Larry Holmes Have Challenged Ali in Around 1976?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    So, what I'm asking is, could Holmes have challenged Ali, maybe 1976, and it being a competetive match?
    Perhaps at that point in time, Larry loses but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be one sided.
     
  2. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holmes beats Ali in 76' via a pretty dull decision, Ali was already past his 70s prime by quite a lot by then,
     
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  3. Qinglong

    Qinglong New Member Full Member

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    Ali was done after the Manila in '75 and never really looked good again after. Any period after 1975, Holmes should be favored to win a decision imo.
     
  4. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably this. Larry started peaking with Shavers 1.
     
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  5. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I pick 1976 Ali in this fight by grotesque robbery.
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Like a Ali v Norton fight.
    Holmes loses via split decision and Holmes spits venom.
     
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  7. Fergy

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    He came of age in that fight imo.
     
  8. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Would have been much more competitive than their 1980 fight. Ali was pretty shot, but still had enough left in the tank to perform at world-level. I think he has enough to beat Holmes at this stage - as Holmes was still green as f**k.
     
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    This is just my own suspicion, but Ali selling the "rope-a-dope" strategy to the public as a work of strategic genius probably helped him out.

    Any time an opponent hit him, Ali could just claim he was rope-a-doping the opponent. So the public was willing to accept that Ali "won" rounds where Ali did very little except get hit. "It's all just part of his plan! Ali gets ring generalship points for getting hit because he's rope-a-doping the opponent!"

    This is just my ungrounded suspicion, but it makes sense to me.
     
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  10. mr. magoo

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    At that point I’d say it would have been 50/50. You had a prospecting Holmes and a past it Ali. Close fight
     
  11. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali never fought a genuine prospect after Manilla. His opponents were either human sacrifices like Rudi Lubbers and Richars Dunn or long career veterans like Lyle, Shavers and Norton.
    Holmes' youth energy and excellent technique may have been too much for Muhammad.