Is Whyte the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd best Fury fought?

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  1. ad4m88

    ad4m88 Active Member Full Member

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    Shame he won't ever fight anyone else wilder will forever be untested Whyte usyk Parker chisora even Ruiz and Joyce are more proven than him
     
  2. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah...nonsense.Firstly Chisora was very inconsistant earlier in his career. and in fact performed more consistently later.
    I agree I had Chisora edging White in the first fight. Chisora hadn't looked that good for quite a while.
    Wilder is completely untested against common opponents. Vlad is clearly Fury's best win. after that it isn't clear if you saying Pianeta is better than Whyte then I know you're talking complete shyte. Whyte is 3rd and no lower.
     
  3. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Let's just look at the highlights/lowlights:

    Whyte got close/controversial wins against Chisora, Parker and Rivas but was sparked by AJ and shot Povetkin

    Usyk cleared out the cruiserweight division on the road, beat Chisora and AJ at heavyweight in his 3rd and 2nd toughest career fights

    Chisora has lost to virtually everyone, his best wins are KO's over shopworn Takam and Scott in fights at home he was losing every round in

    Ruiz smashed AJ but was outboxed in the rematch and lost close to Parker in NZ. Was poor against shopworn Liakhovich, Kevin and Arreola

    Joyce beat former contender Jennings in a close fight in Britain and made power punching prospect Dubois quit late on in a competitive fight


    Wilder schooled and dropped champ Stiverne and KO'd power punching southpaw Ortiz twice, lost twice to No.1 ranked Fury over thee fights in America but gave him two of his toughest career fights, dropping him 4 times

    This "Wilder is untested" BS is just salt from AJ fans. It assumes that the likes of Whyte, Parker and Ruiz are much better than Ortiz x2 and Stiverne, when the truth is that they are probably worse.
     
  4. ad4m88

    ad4m88 Active Member Full Member

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    Stiverne what a joke who did he beat to become champion exactly? Was just another hype America like Martin same with Ortiz who he beat exactly? I remember him struggling against David Allen of all people

    Everyone I named has fought higher quality opponents than wilder stiverne and Ortiz they were and will always be nothing but American TV hype jobs

    The fact you called them worst shows you don't know **** your whole post is laughable just like Wilders career
     
  5. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    If Whyte is better than 39 year old Wlad, then why did he get knocked out cold by a 40 year old Povetkin?

    Both Wlad and Wilder take Whyte's head off
     
  6. Ilesey

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    3rd maybe 4th.
     
  7. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The consensus seems to be #3. I mostly agree. Wallin might even push Whyte to #4, but we'll likely never know.
    Whyte is a worthy challenger and if Fury is sloppy or overconfident, he could lose.
     
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  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    His best was an admittedly past-best but still-dangerous Wlad, who ranks 10 an my all-time HW list.

    His second-best opponent was the very scary, undefeated, if overrated, monster-punching Deontay Wilder.

    His third best opponent so far was undefeated, 28 year-old Otto Wallin


    When he faces 34 year-old, twice-KO'd Dillian Whyte will be his fourth best opponent, and perhaps his third best, depending on how you think he compares to Wallin.


    Fury's resume is a bit thin, but if he gets past Whyte, and beats Usyk and AJ, and adds one more top contender to his resume after that, and then retires undefeated, he will probably merit ATG status and finish up just inside or just outside the top 10 all-time.
     
  9. MarvelousMarvinGolovkin

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    I'm sorry, I like Fury but the odds of him beating Whyte, then Usyk, then AJ AND another top contender after that is astronomically low
    He's getting older and isn't that active either couple that with they'll probably duck him or take step aside money or something outlandish
    If he does all that, not only will he be in ATG territory he will be in Top 5 all time territory
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Whyte is due in April. What I outlined consisted of three more fights, say one in September, and two in 2023.

    He could retire under 35. He's a year younger than Usyk and a year older than AJ.

    He would be a distinct favourite in those final three fights. The only barrier I see is Usyk, whom I see as about a 50-50 with Fury.



    On the other hand, IF Usyk beats AJ again, then beats Fury, Wilder and one other top contender, then retires undefeated at 35 with a record of 23-0, only seven bouts of which would have been at heavyweight, he would merit consideration as an ATG heavyweight and be in the conversation of being just inside or just outside the top ten.

    And he would also be in a decent spot all-time p4p.

    Which would be amazing for a guy with 23 pro fights !
     
  11. MarvelousMarvinGolovkin

    MarvelousMarvinGolovkin Kownackis belly button lint Full Member

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    Usyk is great, I hope he does the latter of what you said so people would finally give him praise, He has to be the most underrated fighter of the past decade in my book
     
  12. UmarIFLUmar

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  13. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This might be difficult for many to understand, but if you fight a top/dangerous fighter three times, it's better than fighting that fighter once and two others that are not as good. A resume isn't better because it has more diversity in it.

    Wilder / Wilder / Wilder is better than Wilder / B+ fighter / B fighter etc.

    So here Fury has seven difficult fights that people would contract to just ''4 opponents'' to diminish it. Five of those fights are against world champion level fighters.

    Wlad / Wilder / Wilder / Wilder / Chisora / Chisora / Cunningham

    That's a difficult run that AJ would not get through without losing. If Usyk can outbox him, Cunningham may well have. AJ would likely lose to a younger Chisora particularly at the age Fury fought him and he wouldn't get through three WIlder fights without a loss. He also wouldn't get through Wlad in Germany two years younger.

    Johnson (pre journeyman) / Hammer (pre journeyman) / Wallin, these are also solid Fury wins.

    So all up Fury has about 10 good wins at this stage, with four excellent wins and three very good wins. He also spent 2-3 years AWOL, had another year wasted by two pullouts by Haye and then Covid ruined at least a year. So that's about 5 wasted years where he didn't fight anyone.
     
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  14. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Who knows, who cares in reality whether he is 1st 2nd or 3rd, he is Furys next opponent that is all that matters, i am sure he will put up more of a fight than Wlad did against Fury, and won't be manhandled as easily as Wilder was.
     
  15. Sean weir

    Sean weir Active Member Full Member

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    He’s third. Wladimir is number one, then Wilder.