Judges should be called to explain their actions

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  1. UndergroundBoxing

    UndergroundBoxing Member Full Member

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    Good idea from Natasha Jonas and Adam Smith in the post-fight interviews last night. Those judges should be made to sit down in front of the board and the fighters and their teams and explain how they scored each round and how they managed to come up with those shocking stupid scorecards…

    Make it public too so the fans get the answers they deserve and the same thing won’t happen with those guys again, hopefully.
     
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    I don’t mean to use hyperbole here but a judge scoring that fight 8-4 Taylor is on par with 10-2 Canelo.

    How?
     
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    "Nothing controversial about it. It was quite difficult to judge. I take on board opinions of people with knowledge of the sport. I won't take notice of people having a few beers and after 12 o'clock start sending messages."

    — Robert Smith, General Secretary of the BBBofC, October 2020


    But it was an Englishman on the unfortunate end of the controversy yesterday evening, instead of a Mexican, so maybe he'll feel differently on this occasion, I cannot say.
     
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    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    It wasn't just drunk fans though lol, it was also the people commentating on it, as well as other boxers and professionals.
     
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    [QUOTE="navigator, post: 2157745
    But it was an Englishman on the unfortunate end of the controversy yesterday evening, instead of a Mexican, so maybe he'll feel differently on this occasion, I cannot say.[/QUOTE]

    So an English judge (Ian John-Lewis) went against an English boxer and awarded the fight to a Scottish boxer.....cant happen like that in many controversial decisions
     
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    As was the case with Ritson-Vazquez.
     
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    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    And there will be another 'robbery' coming to this forum very soon.....stay tuned
     
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    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Close fights will always have mixed reactions, and mixed reactions mostly influenced by emotions/fanboyism.

    Try to explain that to the average bumpkin though.
     
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    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The sanctioning bodies should all step in and declare the result a no contest,Catteral does not deserve a loss on his record and Taylor certainly does not deserve the WIN on his record . jmo
     
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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Clenelo's judges should have to undergo year-round testing by VADA
     
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    I understand the 113-112 JT card, its how i saw it. Ward had it 104-102 at the end of the 11th, i thought that was a bit off as well; i didnt see his final card but i gave the 12th to JT so if ward did the same it would be 114-111 (like the other judge). But in reality that 114-111 score is impossible in favor of JT. In fact it could swing to a wide win for Jack but i saw some of the closer rounds eeked out by josh due to pressure and ring generalship. But 113-112 is the most you give to josh. 113-112 to jack also makes just as much sense as a wide win for jack as well. Either way, i cannot agree at all with that horrible 114-111 card from the other judge.
     
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    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taylor landed 73 punches in 12 rounds was knocked down and had a point deducted while Catterall landed 165. and threw a 100 more. That sound like effective pressure and ring generalship?
     
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    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

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    Unfortunately, boxing is scored round by round. Jack wasnt the same after round 8 and fought in spurts.
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Something really needs to be done about excessive holding too. It's an absolute disgrace, it sucks every ounce of life out of the fight and makes it very ugly and ruins it as a spectacle, and it's bad for the sport. It should've been stamped out long ago.
     
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    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every country on earth understands "A side"

    There are times I wish this would happen. This was a robbery IMO but I'm not sure it reaches the level of deserving an NC. Some people here with no great agenda thought Taylor nicked it (I disagree, but they exist).

    I believe that Ward tries to prepare the audience for the robbery, he usually favors the house guy right up to the outside edge of plausibility (and beyond sometimes). He comes close to saying this from time to time.

    Either that or he's a very eccentric scorer. A lot of fighters are for some reason.

    That was crazy. The ref took one point for nothing and another point for a tap at the end of the round, but nothing for there being more holds than punches.