Sullivan didn't have to fight anyone .. he could have fought Jackson and choose not to .. he selected Kilrain which was fine but he was the easier opponent by all accounts ... he then continued to duck Jackson and when he finally decided to fight again selected Corbett .. all of this was Sullivan's choices.
Kilrain was the more qualified opponent, so in that sense it didn't matter whether he was easier or not. Also it would have been far from clear in 1888/1889, that Jackson was more dangerous than Kilrain. He had beaten George Godfrey, but then so had Kilrain. We know how dangerous Jackson was today, primarily based on what he did after that date. I happen to think that Sullivan didn't want any part of Jackson, but if you are retired, then you are not ducking anybody. It should also be noted that when Sullivan finally came out of retirement, he fought a man who was every bit as dangerous as Jackson, and was confident enough to bet his entire purse on himself.
Kilrain was not close to better or more qualified .. he was less feared by Sullivan ... Sullivan ducked Jackson like Jeffries ducked Johnson and like Dempsey ducked Wills .. the three most definitive examples of heavyweight champions hiding behind the color line in heavyweight history ..
I'm afraid I must insist that he was. A significant portion of the press, including the National Police Gazette, saw Kilrain as the true champion. That is like being the Ring Magazine Champion today. Sullivan Klirain, was to settle who the real champion was. Obviously that is more important, than fighting some impressive looking contender, who has recently arrived from Australia. Not remotely the same situations. Dempsey had an enormous overlap with Wills. Jeffries had a small but meaningful overlap with Johnson. Sullivan had next to no overlap with Jackson, to the extent that you can't even pinpoint a realistic date for the fight. If he had sacked off the Kilrain fight to meet Jackson, then whatever the outcome, the National Police Gazette would still have recognized Kilrain as the champion. Sullivan simply went after the rival title clam.
I will repost the chronology of event's, just in case anybody didn't read it. 21/04/1888 Jackson leaves Australia for the USA. 24/04/1888 Sullivan returns to the USA, following his European tour. 15/05/1888 Sullivan offers to fight Godfrey, and Godfrey refuses. 22/08/1888 Sullivan is shot in the thumb, by a salon owner, trying to perform a trick shot. 24/08/1888 Jackson fights Godfrey. 17/09/1888 Sullivan contracts Typhoid Fever (It migth have been in August, but this is the earliest date when we can prove it). 20/09/1888 Sullivan becomes dangerously ill, and priests attend, in case he doesn't survive the night. 26/09/1888 Sullivan's doctor announces that his condition is improving. 15/10/1888 Sullivan ceases to be bedridden (according to his own testimony). 07/12/1888 Sullivan challenges Kilrain and Mitchell. 21/12/1888 Kilrain accepts the challenge. 07/01/1889 Sullivan and Kilrain sign contracts. 06/05/1889 Sullivan starts training for the Kilrain fight, weighing 230lbs. 08/07/1889 Sullivan fights Kilrain, then announces his retirement at ringside. 24/04/1891 Slavin arrives in the USA. 22/06/1891 Slavin fights an exhibition against former Sullivan victim Charley Mitchell, and gets his ass handed to him. Last edited: Yesterday at 4:31 PM
Jeffries fought Johnson when he was old when the money was right.You can't say the same for Sullivan numerous omissions or Dempsey for not meeting Wills.
Don't mix me up with yourself; some members in this section whished you to get the help you needed (because you published pornographic contend on this page with your second profile), but you apparently didn't get it, unfortunately. Not only you need some therapy, accoring to different users here, but you are addicted to annoy here somebody and you are only happy when you have so dispute and annoy others, on this plattform.
Jeffries fought Johnson, because Johnson held the title. Jackson's backers never came up with the amount of money that Sullivan was asking for, in order to come out of retirement. These "numerous omissions" that you refer to, are all men who were active after Sullivan retired.
Jeffries not only ducked Johnson but was terribly disrespectful of him as champion ... he fought him much later based on overwhelming public sentiment , way past his own best and was crucified ..
And neither did Wills, and neither did Johnson's and one time at band camp ... have to love these apologists ... Muldoon wanted fat , drunk Sullivan no where near Peter Jackson under any circumstance from 86 on. He said it himself in his own book ... Guess you know better because you can hodge podge some paper trail to suit your fantasy 135 years later .. Rickard and Kearns wanted Dempsey no where near Wills from 1920 on .. Jeffries, arrogant and belligerent drew the color line , period .. he ended up the all time biggest loser because of it .. no matter the winner he sure would have done a lot better in 05 or 06 than he did in 10 .. here's the reality of the sport .. the fights that the stars want to get made get made .. the ones they don't , don't ..
I am open to the idea that Muldoon wanted no part of Jackson. I am open to the idea that Sullivan wanted no part of Jackson. However I must insist on certain realities of history. 1. Sullivan was under much more pressure to fight Jake Klirain in 1888/89, than he was to fight Peter Jackson. 2. Kilrain was the more qualified challenger of the two men, because he had a rival title claim, and a strong one. 3. The only ways that Sullivan could have fought Jackson, would have been either to fight him in place of Kilrain, delay his retirement, or come out of retirement to fight him. How much does not fighting Jackson hurt Sullivan's resume? About as much as not fighting Wladamir Klitschko hurts Lennox Lewis's resume. I am not acting as an apologist, I am just unpacking the logistics.
Do you really want that I do this and expose you here again? I can use the search function, but I actually didn't want to embarrass you in this way, as I feel a little bit pitty for you. Though I am not sure if it was something sexual or for racism. The last one is more likely, you won't look good for this... So here you get what you asked for:
That poster is now banned and like you he never at any time offered proof of his allegations which were an outright malicious lying slander You have made an allegation that I made a pornographic post on this forum I have asked you to prove it . If you want to stay here I suggest you either do so or retract your post. Now use that search button and prove me wrong!
