Errol Spence: I've Been Killing Myself Making Weight, So The KOs Stopped...

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  1. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How about 112?
     
  2. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    He was malnourished for a portion of his career
     
  3. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Dude was 16.
     
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  4. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Pac was a natural 135 pounder.
     
  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about when he was at 126? What did he enter the ring at? Or 130?
     
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  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    If you're killing yourself to make weight, and you're not a LHW or a cruiser, you are by defenition a weight bully, and you only got yourself to blame.
    The only reason you'd be excused is massive weight gaps between divisions. But if you kill yourself to make welter instead of light middle, there's no excuse.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It wasn't always this way. It started in the 90s when they moved weigh-ins from hours before a fight to the day before a fight

    I have a magazine article where the writer followed Alex Stewart the day of one of his fights. Everyone on the card officially weighed in when they got to the arena that evening.

    Not the day before.

    Weight bullying started in the 90s. You can't weight bully if you weigh in the afternoon or evening of the show.

    Fighters would have to make weight and be in condition to fight 10 or 12 rounds.

    Guys who dry out and need a recovery day to bounce back from their weight loss couldn't perform

    They'd have to move up to a weight class where they could actually make weight and compete, like they did before the 90s.

    What's the point of a weigh in if nobody weighs within 20 pounds of that when they fight?

    It's pointless. Just drop the weight divisions altogether, since nobody weighs what they're supposed to when the bell rings, or move weigh ins back to the afternoon of the show.

    Whatever your best weight is to perform your best inside the ring should be the division you complete in.

    That's the way it was for a 100 years or more.

    Nobody used to.say they were weight drained. Welterweights can weigh 141 to 147. If you couldn't get in the ring and fight in that six pound range, you moved up.

    What are the other six pounds for if people just starve to weigh in barely at 147 for a couple minutes and then gorge back up to 170 before the fight?

    It's no longer a division at that point.

    It's just a target number 147.
     
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  8. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    doing what kell refused in stead of facing the young guns
    hes running to a division which he stated kell might do but shouldn't
    lol
    double standards
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, but he did making 122, 126 and 130.
     
  10. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's not the point. He was making the lowest weight he could, was he not? And then he only stopped fighting at that weight when he could no longer make it. **Same as everyone else**

    There is no such thing as weight bully.
     
  11. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fighters always have cut weight to maximize competitive advantage, and some people are better able to cut lots of weight than others. That's the "bullying" people refer to, so the accusation applies no matter when weigh-ins are conducted. It's not bullying, it's competing the way fighters always have.

    But if you want to argue that it's harmful to competition and actually dangerous, I'd agree with you. They should have maximum rehydration clauses and thus help with the dangers of same day weigh-ins while not allowing competitive mismatches to take shape. So I agree it's harmful, but it's the criticism of the fighters and their motivations that I disagree with. Nothing has changed, they are just maximizing in a different way.
     
  12. Braindamage

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    Pac was a rare breed. Fighting at higher weight never seemed to slow him down or diminish his punching power. Imagine if Pac drained himself the rehydrated 10-15 pound on fight night. Scarey!
     
  13. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Pacquiao weighed in at 144 and rehydrated to 148 against Margarito in a 150 fight. When Pac settled into 147, he routinely weighed in at 145-147 and rehydrated to 148-150 and 151 twice I believe.

    Crawford weighed in at 140 and rehydrated to 158.
     
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  14. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Simple solution - move up and chase the bigger guys like Canelo did.

    Uncle Al Haymon can't protect his cult followers forever.....
     
  15. 941Jeremy

    941Jeremy Active Member Full Member

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    Ho did you determine that?