Ezzard Charles vs David Tua

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Who wins?

  1. Charles By PTS

    18 vote(s)
    42.9%
  2. Charles By KO/TKO

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  3. Tua By PTS

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  4. Tua By KO/TKO

    22 vote(s)
    52.4%
  1. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Same old BF "reality twist" 24 :yawn:

    At the time Tua got on top, Ezzy would be rumbling Toney, McCallum or Roy Jones.

    If Tua took the time-machine back to the devision of Satterfields, Bivins, Maxim or Cockells, history would´ve wrote him down as Thor.

    :lol:
    Same old, same old.
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ... and Byrd who beat Tua.
     
  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    ....and what was Byrds weight again?
    Never get bored of climbing down that rabbit hole, huh?
     
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  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    You seem to have a good grasp of this era in boxing. Is the general thought or opinion regarding Ezzard Charles post championship that he was just shopworn? Or was the disease that ultimately took his life cause for some of his uneven performances?
     
  5. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I think he was still capable of great performances , albeit he began to drop a decision here and there, My personal opinion is that the two wars with Marciano severely impacted on his career and ability to produce the goods at top level.No doubt having nearly a 100 fights on your clock will take its toll.Could he have beaten Marciano if he was fresher,maybe?
    I'd blame the fights with Rocky for his drop off myself. Layne ,Lastarza ,and Cockell weren''t really much good after facing Marciano.That incessant bombardment takes it's toll on a man's spirit as well as his body imo. Mathews was only in there just under 2 rds what did he accomplish after facing Rocky? Walcott was finished after his first fight with Rocky and froze in the dressing room before their second encounter.Effectively a "deadman walking."
     
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  6. Devon

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    Essays Charles was by far better than Byrd in terms of combination punching and in a scrap, but Byrd was better defensively, much better at avoiding punches using head movement and pivoting away, Charles just wasn’t as elusive as Byrd, I’m not comparing them overall
     
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  7. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you play weight card again, what a surprise...
     
  8. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    What was Chris Byrds weight when he fought Tua?
     
  9. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    So you´d pick Roy Jones, the fastest MOFO in the universe, to come up right from LHW to meet David Tua?
     
  10. 70sFan865

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    Why do you ask if you know the answer?
     
  11. Bah Lance

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    Until after the Marciano bouts, Charles was at least an equal or better defensive boxer than Byrd.

    Byrd was a Southpaw who had lackluster offense with flashy upper body and head movement. So it's understandable people might think of him as a superior defender based off his visible awkwardness.

    However, Charles used what would essentially become the Philly Shell and was hugely influential on James Toney and others as a defensive master. There's a reason Charles had such longevity and came out of so many scraps largely unscathed, and late in his career survived one of Marciano's most brutal efforts. Charles was hard to catch clean and combos were very difficult to land on him.

    Tua was unable to impose his power on Byrd and would struggle to do so here again. Charles by decision is my prediction.
     
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