The Dmitry Bivol Bandwagon

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RJJFan, Mar 16, 2022.


  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I wasn't even referring to you specifically. There are a lot of people who parrot this narrative that the fight was a razor-close affair because two of the judges had it razor-close. I was genuinely dumbfounded upon hearing the scorecards announced and I still find it bizarre how anyone can genuinely believe it was close.

    True but Clenelo could nick a win after being shutout and dropped 5 times
     
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  2. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They BOTH were fine with 155. :facepalm:

    That simply applies to THAT SITUATION. :lol:
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But who's idea was it? After killing himself to make 152 for Mayweather, there was no need to make 154 for non-title fights vs Angulo, Lara or Kirkland. Does anyone really have a problem with those non-title fights being at 155?

    The problem people had was the Middleweight Title being defended at 155, and in those cases Cotto who was already defending it at catchweights and he was clearly the one who demanded the catchweight. And Khan is on the record saying he would only fight Canelo at 155. So while the non-title fights at 155 may have been preferred by Canelo, instead of at 154 with no title on the line, there was no need to make that weight. Against Cotto and Khan, w know it was not his demand, so we need to keep all this in perspective.
    Well that situation indicates that Canelo left negotiations to his team. We don't know if he had any input in the weight demands or if that was solely DLH and GB who made any weight related demands.
     
  4. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ofcourse I have a issue, majority of Canelo fights are unfair in a multitude of ways over the years, I did post up that I was hopeful that when Clenboi parted from Golden boy that things might change ... the Kovalev fight was a continuation of the same...The issue with you your blindly unwavering walls of text that amounts to total lies & points towards serious mental health issues...what else can one think....
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo didn't become a free agent until after the Kovalev fight. So you have your sequence of events out of order. If you were hopeful that when he parted with GB that things might change, they did change. There was no more weight restrictions of any kind since then.

    If you thought that the Kovalev fight was negotiated after he became a free agent, that just goes to show how you don't have your facts straight.
    Lies? You thought Kovalev was negotiated after Canelo parted with Golden Boy. That's your lie. Now that I set you straight on that, I think you need to re-evaluate Canelo since he became a free agent. Since then things have changed, no rehydration clauses since then and I think it's time you admit that.
     
  6. KeedCubano

    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

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    Yeah, I've never understood the 'one dimensional' label when a guy managed to make their dimension work in various situations.

    Joe Frazier was so one dimensional he physically didn't have the biology to fully extend his left arm, yet he managed to impose himself on the most multi faceted out boxer in heavyweight history.
     
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  7. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GTFO.... There was NO reason to not fight in his weight class of 154 at the time. What, 155 was his better and more preferred weight?

    What Cotto does with his title has no bearing for Canelo trying to defend his MW title at 155. What the hell attempt at logic is that??
    "Cotto did it, I could too!"

    You take liberties with any little bit of info you have and concoct an entire situation, which you then believe as FACT. Just like w/ the Bill Clinton Clen steaks you invented. :duh

    You could change lightbulbs in an auditorium without a ladder with your reach....
     
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  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If a title isn't on the line, what is wrong with a catchweight? There is no purpose to making 154 without a title being on the line. The issue people have with catchweights is when there is a title on the line, like Pac vs Cotto or Pac vs Margacheato. In a non-title fight, I don't see why you would have a problem with a catchweight.
    Of course it has a bearing dummy lol. It wasn't just "Cotto did it, I could too" it was that Cotto as Champion would only defend it at catchweights. So Cotto vs Canelo being at 155 was not Canelo's decision, it was Cotto's. And Canelo's only defense of that title was against Khan, who was coming from WW and is on record saying that he would only fight Canelo at 155. So in both of those cases, it was not Canelo or his team who insisted on the 155 catchweight, it was his opponent. Get that through your thick skull lol.
    Invented? There is a photograph of him dining with Bill Clinton at a Mexican Steakhouse. Too bad for you that the facts get in the way of your story.
     
  9. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was unnecessary. Are you dense?? Fighting these other jrMWs at 155 for what?

    Canelo tried to get 3G in the ring at 155. THAT is the issue....catch the **** up.

    And YOU jumped to the conclusion that is where the tainted beef came from. YOU invented the source, pretending that was a fact. Grow some humility FFS....
     
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  10. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I realise you have no life & could appear on Mastermind , specialist subject Canelo hotti boy...your obsessed & unnaturally invested in a boxers career....You need to deal with yourself...Canelo & his team are bona fide drug cheats, weight cheat & genarally underhand scum...
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't see the problem with it. The general consensus about catchweights is that fans don't like them when they are in title fights. Canelo or his team never demanded a catchweight for a title fight. There's no purpose to making 154 when there's not a title on the line. You can say it's unnecessary but catchweights in non-title fights are not deserving of condemnation like when they happen in title fights. And when they happen in title fights, we need to blame the side that demanded them. (Mayweather/Cotto/Khan vs Canelo, & Pac vs Cotto/Margacheato) Blaming Canelo for his opponent demanding catchweights makes no sense. He was the one drained and disadvantaged in those scenarios.
    That was De La Hoya, not Canelo. DLH made dumb statements, like after the rematch when he said he was gonna make GGG wait for a 3rd fight. Ever since DLH got his ass fired, none of this stuff has been happening, so it's obvious that they only happened because of DLH.
    I invented the source? What LOL. The source was public. It was part of the investigation. Don't be dumb.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    DLH and GB were behind that, it hasn't happened since Canelo became a free agent. You thought Canelo was a free agent when he fought Kovalev lol. Shows how clueless you are.
     
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  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: you'll believe anything so long as it paints canelo in the picture you want. Got bridge and some moon property to sell you, right next door to Canelo...
     
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  14. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I don’t give Bivol much of a chance. Canelo has already fought several high movement fighters and two of them were just back to back. He’s already adjusted his style to them. Bivol is the biggest and most skilled mover yet but he has yet to show us that 2nd gear, he’s always just coasting to a decision win
     
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  15. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL

    Hypocrite much