Wilder rarely if ever wins polls on this board no matter who he's put up against. So the totals don't surprise me. I think even Butterbean was picked to beat him at one point. I voted for Wilder here. Ruiz beat Joshua and everyone said Ruiz would beat Wilder, until Ruiz lost to Joshua in the return. Now, no one thinks Ruiz beats Wilder. Usyk didn't come close to beating Joshua like Ruiz did, but now everyone thinks Usyk beats Wilder. But Usyk wouldn't. The best punch against a southpaw is a straight right hand. Who has the best straight right hand in the division - and maybe the best right in the division's history? Wilder does. Wilder hasn't outweighed an opponent in nearly a decade. The last guy Wilder fought who weighed less than him lasted 30 seconds. Fury outweighed him by 40 pounds or more in all of their fights. Wilder weighs more than Usyk. Someone said Szpilka boxed well against him, but left out that Szpilka got carried out of the ring on a stretcher, couldn't fight for a year, and couldn't take a punch ever again. He was permanently broken by that KO. I don't want to bash Usyk. He's totally earned my respect. But Wilder ices him like he's iced every southpaw he's ever fought. I'd love to see this fight. But this era of heavyweights is slipping away fast. I could always see Fury retiring and coming back until he's well into his 40s. But I always believed Wilder would call it quits shortly after losing his title. Now that he has lost it, I don't expect we'll see much more of him. He never loved the game. He wasn't going to stick around forever. Fourteen years is a long pro career.
Well if you think that Joyce a late starter in the Amateurs who was over 4 yrs from turning pro, and fighting Usyk in a 5 round bout, was a true test of Usyks chin, who himself was an Olympic champion, who had fought at European championships even before Joyce had even laced up a glove, and at time of Joyce bout actually retired from amateurs and about to turn pro, then so be it. As for Gassiev well yes heavy handed but they fought at cruiserweight, some might say he is hardest puncher they have faced, likewise a lot will say the same for Wilder. Do you honestly think that Joshua truly tested Usyks chin? Joshua will have to in the rematch as that is AJs only real option. If and it a big if Wilder connected with Usyks jaw then it would be truly tested, it might be true granite and stand up to the Wilder bomb, but until they fought we would never know.
The Bronze Dosser couldn't beat Usyk's son Tell your friend, assuming they're arguing in favour of the Bronze Dosser that is, to come and see me because I'll slap the poop out of anyone who even dares mention that useless elongated buffoon hype job's name in the same breath as Usyk's in my presence
I generally like boxers who hit hard and too hard. So I am biased on this topic. Wilder's chances are small (in the voting range, or less); hence 10%. But if Wilder placed a punch like the famous “shockwave” (which is a small chance) Usyk wouldn’t get up. Apart from Tyson Fury the famous “shockwave” I think would only endure Andy Ruiz Jr., but while after “shockwave” Tyson Fury was usable, Andy Ruiz Jr. it would not be usable (Wilder would finish it). After defeating AJ, Usyk said: "It would be easiest against Wilder and hardest against Tyson Fury."
Yeah, you look at Usyk's face, and he got hit a couple fo times. Wilder has never knocked out anybody that was that good. Even Fury does not have the best beard. Your point about Joyce is lost on me.
Indeed 12 rounds of boxing left damage to Usyks face, but in my opinion his jaw was not tested against AJ Furys chin seems fine to me, as the quote goes “It’s not whether you get knocked down, it’s whether you get up.”, many ATGs have been decked but got up and won. As for you saying Wilder had not knocked out anyone as good as Usyk, perhaps not. But likewise has Usyk ko'd anyone you think would stand a chance in hell against Wilder? Having only lost to one fighter namely Fury and only taken the distance by one other fighter in Stiverne, it could be said it not Wilders fault he has not ko'd anyone of Usyks level, as they have not been in opposite corner for him to do so. I think Usyks chin likely is sound, however until he is hit by a Wilder punch we would not definitively know he could stand up to one. With regard you getting lost on my Joyce comment, my point was at time of the WSB bout Usyk was a Olympic Champion, a experienced master boxer who had in region of 350 amateur bouts vs the relatively inexperienced Joyce. Usyk was in fact retired as amateur and was entering the pro ranks, so proven master Usyk vs unproven apprentice Joyce. At the time of the bout Joyce was not even in the elite squad of the GB boxing team. Usyks did not get his whiskers challenged by Joyce in that bout. Bottom line if Usyk still has the belts after facing AJ again, there is zero to gain for Usyk facing Wilder and a whole lot to lose.
It’s all a moot point anyway. Usyk isn’t a Washington, Molina or a Szpillka so therefore would be of no interest to Wilder
Usyk's lateral movement will cause Wilder to trip over his own feet and land face first into the canvas. Usyk wide UD or Usyk late KO when Wilder has expended all his energy trying to land his one hitter quitter.
You have to be able to set more than one trap to get to Usyk - and Wilder only has one trap; lurking just outside of range and waiting - sometimes multiple rounds - until a slip in concentration, then he detonates. There's no hesitation, he just lets that right hand go. Despite the windmilling once he's got a fighter hurt, he actually throws his initial straight right beautifully. But if Usyk prepares for and negates this trap - and with his ring IQ and footwork he would - what's Wilder gonna do then? More than this, Usyk uses feints and disruptive jab, which sometimes merely moves guards to help find a home for the back hand and other times converts into hurtful punches to the mid-section. Both would create the kind of uncertainty that would see Deontay hesitant and unwilling to throw. I just can't see Wilder creating the opening to detonate that bomb...
