Explain Fitzsimmons vs Jeffries 2 to me

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be honest, I didn't know that. It explain a lot of things though :D
     
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  2. lufcrazy

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    Wel Fitz was a much better boxer than Jeffries.

    But he was also much older and much smaller, so he succumbed to physical factors.
     
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  3. Kosst Amojan

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    Doesn't come to your mind, when it is on Youtube, it go probably restaurated and remade by some cutters rather recently. Especially if these are coloured, them are not orginal and made suitable for the current times.

    I have that session of about 5 - 11 minutes on an externe hard disk since more than a decade (before 2010).
     
  4. Kosst Amojan

    Kosst Amojan Active Member banned Full Member

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    Well I likely know it more or less well, as I am professional in E-Commerce...;)

    Credible is matter of opinion. That newspaper report on Boxrec seemed to be rather verified and something else and are most likely orginal one. They have even the scorecards of the different reporters there.

    You should be aware, anything you find in the internet via search could be a fake, these days.
     
  5. Journeyman92

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    What racist comments? Show them to me, please.
     
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  6. Kosst Amojan

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    They got deleted, either by this person or a moderator. Also was a different issues but of similar kind the reason why he got suspended few years ago (2 or 3).

    A summary about it is: In the topic about Henry Maske (if it would be a shock, when who defeats Foster) did he try to write German (but did it not correct) and wrote about UBERMENSCH (meant Übermensch likely) and master-race. Just as did slender to call us nazis.

    There did he also pretend that Rocchigiani was not world class in Light-Heavyweight (according to this guy was he never top 10 in it).
     
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  7. Kosst Amojan

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    He isn't, just top 5, as anyone who is familar with him know, he competed longer in Light-Middleweight.
     
  8. 70sFan865

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    This is a level too much for my taste, you live in your own world it seems.
     
  9. Pugguy

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    LOL, I just read this and literally almost spat my coffee out laughing.

    I already supplied the same day/next day source for details of Fitz’s retirement announcement. I also already answered the question of my posting under any other monikers - NO. I did ask you the same question btw but you didn’t answer - why is that?.

    I’ve already provided several sources re other points of contention - you’ve yet to provide any. I think I deserve at least one verified source in return.

    Or should I say, “I don’t do the search work for you!!”

    Oops, almost spat out my coffee again. My own bad. You’re killing me. LOL.
     
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  10. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Next day newspapers stated the reason Jeffries won was the 12 years age difference ,and the huge size disparity.
     
  11. Tonto62

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    I've never made a racist post in my life,neither am I nationalistic I root for the best man to win.You were the one accusing others of a superman mentalityI simply pointed out where that BS nastiness originated from .Now could you manage to concentrate on boxing do you think? You have a track record of accusing posters of being racist.Here is one of your recent posts to IKRASEVIC.
    1. This same topic is here published about hundred times, like every 3 months: I is still nonsense; I don't have Ali on place 2, as he was too inconsistent (failed too often). Here are some user which have Marciano, others which have Johnson and few have even Lewis (though I suppose mostly Brits) at the top of the division. So it is anything else but naturally to have these two guys in front of the rest, but just ignorant like to pretend the two Rays are the best welterweights without question.
      Nothing of this is undisputed and everyone ought to get possibilty to choose their own top 3, not only one of these.

      As you have three times as many black boxers as white ones, this can be interpreted as racistic (particular as for one will nobody seriously vote): Tommy Burns might be the greatest Canadian heavyweight (besides of Lewis) and had 11 successful title-defences (three against Bill Squires), but most likely no one have him here in the top 15. There can be rather Schmeling, Liston, Patterson and Corbett listed, maybe even Wills.

      The first three should be also ahead of Frazier. So I would replace these two and Holyfield too (as he had the little against Bowe) and put 5 or 6 caucasian boxers in it. Half of the boxers you listed have no buisness in a top 3 and most know this. It seems to be selected to get that boxer who is wanted voted here.

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  12. lufcrazy

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    Mendoza, is it you?
     
  13. Tonto62

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    This is all BS ,You started with the Brits and Yanks thinking themselves superior ,all I did was point out where the origins of the "Master Race" theory came from. I called nobody a Nazi and ,unlike you I won't be reporting you for your slander of me,because nobody with an ounce of common sense takes anything you say seriously .
    Try and confine yourself to boxing and your silly statements that Maske 6foot 2 and a half was taller than Foster ,six foot three,and that he had a longer reach,though you don't actually know what it is!

    On boxing I stated Rocchiggiani was not Ring ranked at LHVy when he fought Maske and he wasnt! Easily provable ,as are Maske's and Foster's respective heights!
    Can we stay on boxing?
     
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  14. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That's the worst insult [concerning boxing,] I've had levelled at me on this forum.
     
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  15. lufcrazy

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    McVey, is that you?