Whyte trying to sabotage Wembley PPV

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  1. Fibbo

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    Whyte will be flat on his back on the night unless Fury decided to play with him for 12 rounds.
     
  2. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here is Sauerland showing sympathy for Warren, in that Warren by rights does not need to give Whyte anything outside the basic contract, but on the flip side of that neither does Whyte. Ultimately, Sauerland said whilst he understands where Warren is coming from and he would be annoyed too, he would have made concessions to get Whyte (the other half of the main event) on side. He gives an example of a situation he had when promoting Klitschko v Povetkin to support this.

    Is Whyte trying to sabotage the PPV? Yeah he probably has through his none action. But Warren is seemingly sabotaging his own PPV with his bull headedness and that shocker of an undercard
     
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  3. Finkel

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    So basically you are saying, yeah it's corrupt, but you are cool with it, this time. lol
    [edit: I should say, that I do appreciate that you are not necessarily condoning this, it was just amusing when you put your response to Holler after mine.]

    As I mentioned before as they have this as the final wording on purse splits:
    "The modification of the split of the remainder shall be limited to 60-40% and 55-45%, except in the most exceptional circumstances, in which the split may be modified to 50-50% at the WBC's sole discretion"​
    it's pretty clear they are breaking the rules on this one. Nothing written there about in the most exceptional circumstances they can set it to 80-20%.

    So whilst I understand the WBC give themselves lee-way to have final interpretation of their own rules (it's basically the very first clause), they haven't left room for a reinterpretation, as what is written is pretty black and white.

    Now I will admit, perhaps lawyers have different interpretations of language, but there is only so far anyone can twist the written word
     
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  4. carlingeight

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    They just need someone for Fury to make fun of pretty much, doesn't matter who it is as long as the opponent is there. It'll be one of the reasons Whyte has disappeared no doubt. He'll have seen what happened to Wlad and Wilder and thought he doesn't fancy it. He'd have been wound up to god knows what point.
     
  5. james5000

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    Whyte is getting whacked so good job.

    Hope Frank takes half his purse for his shenanigans.

    Whyte has been claiming people ducking him for years because of purses half the size of his lol. Ffs some much less than that.

    Whyte gets no sympathy from me. He is being overpaid imo anyway.

    The fact Hearn is championing his shenanigans speaks of the jealousy form matchroom top to bottom.

    Whyte was probably egged on to do it imo.

    Judging by the 94k his sideshow has derailed nothing.
     
  6. Holler

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    Leaaving aside their own rules on the silver belt scam I've already pointed out the stitch up over coronavirus impacted purses. Their decision on how far down the line of previous purses to calculate the two fighters commercial pulling power was clearly weighted against Whyte. One could also if one cared look at Fury's takes with the Wilder trilogy and question whether they were representative of his earning capacity once the only semi credible US hype job had been disposed of. How much of that enormous Vegas ticket revenue would still be there if Fury was facing someone other than Wilder? Do we just forget the Wallin or Schwarz attendances?

    If I could be arsed (and I cannot) it would be interesting* to go back through the interminable discussions over a potential AJ vs Wilder fight, in particular those talking about 'fairness' in purse splits. At the time anyone arguing, like Hearn, that AJ's recent stadium fights and huge PPV numbers in the UK justified a lions share of the purse was swiftly countered by those who argued that it wasn't Wilder's previous purses or lacklustre resume that should be considered as much as what he would bring to this fight. In his case, an American, mouthy, trash talking heavyweight with plenty of KO's on his record and the potential to drive far more casual buys when matched with a decent opponent.

    As one massive hypocrite said 'it should be fifty/fifty two fighting men' not because Wilder could earn anything like that anywhere else but because the combination of him and Joshua would make more than AJ vs AN Other. Well in the UK, albeit to a lesser extent, the same is true of Whyte.

    Whyte's percentage value in this fight should've taken into account his status as no: 4 on the Ring HW rankings and the 241 weeks he's spent there, a period only exceeded by Wilder, Joshua and Parker. A record that includes wins over Helenius, Chisora, Parker, Rivas and Povetkin which bears comparison to many of the other top hw's. It should've recognised the name recognition he's built up in the market most crucial to the fights success with the casuals that will make or break its success. It should've acknowledged his 'tarkin shite' capacity to help market the fight in the build-up by incentivising him to make it a success.

    All of this is obvious if you take off the names of Fury and Whyte and just examine it as fighter a and fighter b.

    Indeed.

    Let me restate what I think is obvious to anyone that's followed boxing for a number of years. Leave aside your feelings on the men concerned and their ability/achievements. Whyte has been shafted. It doesn't mean he's not still going to make significant amounts of money, but he's going to make significantly less in percentage terms than was reasonable for him to expect going into a HW title fight that he's more than earned a shot at.

    I'm sure certain people were delighted when they got that 80/20 news. Must've seemed like Christmas and justified their purse bid, with so much coming back to their side of the table. Now however, the fight which should've been the high point of the promoters illustrious career now looks far worse than it could've done. Lacklustre promotion, an undercard which is an actual insult to every paying customer be they in the stadium or at home. A UK PPV price which looks 20% north of what most would consider reasonable no matter how much they spend on pizzas.

    Most of all it's once again shown the seedy underhand nature of this sport and how quickly fans will overlook any kind of skullduggery if it benefits their favoured fighters or promoters. Which is a shame.





















    *and by interesting I of course mean mind numbingly tedious.
     
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  7. home and away

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    Hearn is behind it. Both Whyte and Hearn will look very silly when Whyte is sprawled over the canvas. Destruction from best in world vs British level plodder
     
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  8. Plaistow

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    Always Hearn’s fault ain’t it ffs…
     
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  9. home and away

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    ye
     
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  10. BEATDOWNZ

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    Lord above, why is the promoter CONSTANTLY talking about "contract breach" when Whyte DOES NOT HAVE TO do PR? Warren has milked that line. That's no substance to it because it wasn't agreed to on paper, and if it isn't agreed to on paper then DW can do whatever he likes. And no doubt there will be a legal battle after. He's like a brat at times.

    Warren has waxed lyrical about this being the TF show, slated Whyte a zillion times, and now he's in breach? You think he would try and keep everyone happy. Frank played favourites with Tyson and now he's reaping what he has sowed. Warren is THE PROMOTER. Therefore it's HIS job to promote and the fighters to fight. Whyte doesnt ask him to hop in for him does he? No because thats not his job. And Whyte is no doubt training for the biggest fight of his life so why would he show up to interviews when it's time best spent preparing for the fight? He will need to hone his craft as much as humanly possible to even hang with Tyson.

    Warren is a fossil and he's making rookie mistakes. He has made this fight happen and ruined it all by himself. Arum had no problems making major fights happen abroad with Tyson and Wilder. And that's because he isn't biased.
     
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  11. home and away

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    Lot of people moaning about Warren but he will have last laff when Fury splatters Shyte back to that dump Brixton
     
  12. Murderers' Row

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    Has anyone actually read the contract?
     
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  13. Astro

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    What I think is a real problem is if this sets a precedent. What if Matchroom UK wins a purse offer next time and the opponent from Warren, Wasserman etc. refuses to participate in the build up of the fight ?
     
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  14. Terminator

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    Dillian whyte is an absolute whopper
     
  15. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why would they?

    Matchroom has no history of treating fighters poorly before a fight.

    Treat fighters correctly and things like this don't happen.

    Warren decided to **** Whyte about and that came with consequences.