Yes, if you're a remorseless pos who doesn't feel guilt from derailing an innocent person's life. BTW Khan is not Hamed.
He's not a tragic figure. He did live through a tragedy (that he bore responsibility for). Most of us have done dumb **** at some point and not ended up in prison while shouldering the guilt of ruining someone else's life.
It was painful to watch Roy post Ruiz. He was an awesome fighter and still is one of my favourites of all time. No one could touch him in his prime.
Hamed never really fulfilled his supposed potential. Jones did and then some. Hamed is the answer. He turned into a blob and went to jail for a hit and run….
Roy Jones Junior. Dedicated his life to boxing, people don't grasp how much of what he did was the product of discipline. Those tantalizing skills didn't appear from thin air and we had to watch a life time of ungodly effort fall apart in front of us. He probably got very good before he could even walk. Imagine seeing Picasso resorting to painting 5 minute portraits on the sidewalk of the beach, very similar situation.
That is an intriguing observation. Mainly because everyone discusses Jones in terms of his transcendent natural gifts. Speak on this. I know you are overstating it saying he developed his talent when he could only crawl, but you think his success was at least as much sweat as genetic prowess like speed & reflexes? Picasso is a funny comparison. I recall from when i was a child seeing him listed in the Guiness Book of World Records-as the most prolific artist ever. He actually did decline, had a significant "dirty ol man" erotic art phase that was not as great-although he was still renowned & extremely celebrated. And I recall a story where he did a quick sketch on a napkin & a woman inquired as to the price. It was high; she protested that it only took him a couple of minutes to produce. He answered that it took him a lifetime of experience to be able to do that.
Jones got those reflexes training and sparring from an age most of us spend collecting Pokémon cards. Hard workers make you think they’re talented because they’ve been doing it long enough to make you think it’s as natural as breathing for them. About Picasso that’s all really interesting I had no idea. Thanks.
I don’t really see either career as being a downfall. Sure it sucked to see Jones lose fights to chumps that he would have killed years earlier but it was his choice to go on. Doesn’t erase what he did in his prime
Both fighters were average skilled but freakishly athletic. When their atheletiscim started to dip , the holes in their skill level began to be exploited. I don't know about the word tragic. Both fighters seem to be doing well today. But Jones Jr. Did what the vast majority of great fighters do. Stayed around way to long. The 2nd Tarver fight should've been his last.
Those fighters weren`t world class, Barrera was on another level to 90`s feather`s except Manny and Morales.
Well I would argue there not world class, Vazquez is a 3 weight world champion. Kevin Kelley was 47-1 and was 8-1-1 in world title fights when he met Hamed, Medina was a five time world Featherweight champion with loads of good wins under his record. McCullough was a former Bantamweight world champion, probably a bit undersized at Featherweight. But he still gave great fighters like Zaragoza, Morales, all they could handle. And finally Ingle was a Featherweight world champion, beat a very talented fighter like Colin McMilan, beat Medina and also beat Junior Jones, who beat Barrera twice the man you said who was on "Another level". Maybe their not great fighters like Barrera, Morales, Pacquiao, but they were all world class fighters.
Jones and its not even close. Now Jones had a China chin and was vastly overrated according to many. Naz lost interest in boxing when he made his money so I think he didn't care.
