Whats the point of coming in at 250 lbs?

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  1. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Its obviously clear that being a whale isnt always an advantage in boxing. Especially not when you are facing a guy who is 5 inches taller and uses that advantage well. Speed would have given Whyte the edge that he needed. The guy had many opportunities to land some good power shots working behind the jab but couldnt follow up because hes slow as molasses.

    What the **** are these conditioning trainers and boxing coaches thinking? Would it have killed the whale if he had come in at 220-230 lbs?
     
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  2. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Coming in at 230 is unrealistic. If you drop weight too quick, you get weak.
    That said, fighters should not let themselves balloon up in between fights.
     
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  3. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    No, because 210-220 is his natural weight. The guy is carrying a massive amount of fat for a pro athlete, and he had months to shed that weight.
     
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  4. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Think Whyte just didnt wanna get leaned on and tired out by Fury's clinching and wrestling. Wilder had the same idea for the trilogy fight.
     
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  5. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hey...I agree that he's carrying way too much weight.
    But losing weight too rapidly will drain you. He should be staying in shape all the time so that extra weight is not an issue at all. But he didn't. So, if he started camp at 260 or whatever, losing 30lbs in six weeks is a bad idea.
     
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  6. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Come to think of it, Bowe had that problem coming into the second Golota fight. Weight loss drained him. Youre right.

    Its a shame though. Heavyweight boxing might have the worst athletes in all of sports.
     
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  7. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Whyte pretty much retired after the Parker fight.
     
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  8. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he was 220 he'd be too weak and even more glass chinned.
     
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  9. lepinthehood

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    Whyte had very little chance even if he came in at his optimal perfect weight of 241lbs and 2oz.
     
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  10. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They did and they both gassed and ran out of ideas. I think Usyk has the best chance against Fury nearly all other contenders are plodders.
    I give Joyce a good chance because for a big man he's got a good gas tank. can keep that pressure up and won't get bullied in the clinch.
     
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  11. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    They don't have the discipline obviously.
     
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  12. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Whyte's natural weight without sos and hypertrophy would be somewhere around 220. I agree.
     
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  13. Sap1en

    Sap1en Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good post
     
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  14. skm87

    skm87 New Member Full Member

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    250 isn't too big for Whyte is it? Few lbs more than the Povetkin rematch and less than against Parker which is probably his best win.
     
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  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I agree with the thread. They are bulking way too much, for pretty much no reason.
    You may gain a bit of strength and power, but you obviously are going to lose a lot of speed, both in hands and footwork. On top of that, you are losing cardio, reflexes, and so on.
    Also durability/toughness doesn't come from adding 20 or 30 pounds more.
     
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