Just to expand on this a bit... I've been enjoying reading your posts for over 15 years, SSF, and I generally agree with your positions, and even when I don't, I still appreciate your POV. However, Reading the Opening Post on this thread, and seeing SRR and Lamotta described as "real degenerates"... Everybody has pros and cons, and some people (including boxers) aren't always at their best. I thought that was a bit judgmental and had to agree with your "judgy" statement. Nothing personal... I consider you one of the top twenty posters on here, and I I will continue to enjoy reading your posts.
Emile Griffith's name should never have popped up in this discussion. It was thrown in by Col Sanders along with Orlando Solis in an obvious homophobic barb. His posts are generally pathetic. He excelled himself here. Anonymous keyboard warrior homophobia aimed at men with more courage in their little finger than he will ever have. Would he say it to Orlando's face - that he is a bad man as he is homosexual? Would he have said it to Emile's face? Is he sitting there calling me a snowflake gay-lovin' POS under his breath as he reads this? No, no and yes. Honestly. Such a tit.
Leonard was so high one night after beating his wife, he took the gas lighter from his garage and screamed ‘I’m going to burn this house down’. Yeah not a good guy at all!