Shakur Stevenson enters my pound for pound top 10!

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    With a long jab.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Charlo is nowhere near Canelo`s level.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Stevenson is nowhere near as skilled a prime Tyson and he has no power, his jab is weak.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tank is a poor man`s Tyson, he only punches with 70% of his full weight because he hasn`t got prime Tyson`s body mechanics.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Stevenson was far bigger than Valdez who looked even smaller than usual after VADA testing, lets see if Canelo looks small at his weigh-in v Bivol too;)
     
  6. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Where did I say he was or was not? I think the point is lower case g wants no part of Charlo. Canelo may or may not fight Charlo time will tell.
     
  7. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Well it was more than enough for experienced undefeated 2 weights division world champion Barrios trained by Don Eddy Reynoso and backed by Canelo. Not many as skilled as a prime Mike Tyson so what.
     
  8. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    His mechanics are enough to separate world class fighters and world champions from their senses.
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Aside from Loma being the most skilled fighter in the game

    A legit three weight world champion not a legit one weight fake three-weight one

    Having one of the best resumes in the sport let alone for a fighter who has 18 fights

    Being the joint fastest ever one weight world champion with only corruption preventing him from being the fastest ever

    The fastest two-weight world champion

    The fastest ever three-weight world champion

    And being the only fighter ranked in the P4P top 10 who is routinely giving away the kind of physical advantages he is, especially in terms of weight and reach

    Clenelo vs Kovalev was David vs Goliath but Kovalev would've only had a couple of pounds on him max and 2'' in reach. Kovalev had a big height advantage though

    Twink vs Barrios was another ''David vs Goliath'' affair even though Barrios would've had 5-6lbs max and 3½'' in reach on him, but Loma is routinely giving away 7-12lbs if not more and 2-5½'' in reach.

    Commey comes in at 153-154lbs and has a 71'' reach for goodness sake, that's like three divisions heavier than what Loma comes in at not 5-6lbs and 3½'' in reach.

    The giant Nakatani must be roughly the same

    The size difference between Campbell and Loma is much bigger in terms of weight and reach than it is between Barrios and Twink

    Ditto for Pedraza and Loma

    Teofimo might not have a big height advantage on Loma but he's way naturally bigger and heavier than him and even he has a 3'' reach advantage on him

    One of the rare occasions Loma had the reach advantage he limited the extremely talented GRJ, a fighter with the fastest hands in the game, to landing just 10% of his punches in his own backyard

    Number of world champions fought

    And remember many of these, in complete contrast to Loma who is rarely the bigger man and is often giving away significant/huge amounts of weight and reach, are often or always the bigger or much bigger man than their opponents and the champions they've fought and often or always have the physical advantages.

    Five of the 11 world champions Loma has fought were world champions at 135 and much bigger and heavier than him, not leprechauns dragged up in weight or shot leprechauns coming up in weight who were champs or champs in lower divisions long ago he's much bigger than

    Three were world champions at 126 and he fought two of them at that weight and one of them had a whopping 11lbs weight advantage on him

    Two were word champions at 130 and he fought them at that weight, both being heavier than him

    Loma fought Waters who was a champ at 126 up at 130 but Loma had come up from 126 too and Walters is the naturally bigger man and he had a whopping 7½'' reach advantage on Loma

    Only Rigo was a champ below 126. Hmm..

    So Loma has pretty much fought all these champions at their weights

    Even someone as talented, skilled and excellent as Crawford is who is one of the very best of this bunch has never once been at a reach disadvantage in any of his world title fights and often has the weight and reach advantage and often significant ones too. This is the complete opposite of Loma.

    Clenelo roughly about 18 in 60 fights IIRC

    Loma 11 in 18 fights

    Crawford 9 in 38 fights

    Think Inoue is about 8 or maybe even 9 in 22 fights

    Twink 7 in 26 fights - don't be fooled this is pure smoke and mirrors. Many were champs down at 118, 122 or 126 or shot to bits. By far the most smoke & mirrors out of everyone on this list

    Usyk 6 in 19 fights

    Spence 7 in 28 fights

    GGG 7 in 43 fights

    Taylor 5 in 18 fights

    Briedis 5 in 29 fights

    AJ 5 in 26 fights

    Jermello 4 in 36 fights

    Beterbiev 3 in 17 fights

    Castano 3 in 19 fights

    Kambosos 3 in 20 fights

    Haney 3 in 27 fights

    Ugas 3 in 31 fights

    Jermallo 3 in 32 fights

    Fury 3 in 32 fights

    Bronze Dosspot 3 in 45 fights

    Joe Smith Jr 3 in 31 fights

    Valdez 4 in 31 fights

    Bivol 2 in 17 fights

    Murata 3 in 19 fights

    Makabu 2 in 31 fights

    Shakur 2 in 18 fights

    Okolie 1 in 17 fights

    Goulamirian 0 in 26 fights

    Boo Boo 0 in 31 fights

    I don't follow the leprechaun divisions so I ain't diving down there

    Nonito has fought a lot. At least 13 in 48 fights but likely even more than that

    And Roman has fought a ton too

    And like I said, when you factor in how, in complete contrast to many of the aforementioned, the huge physical advantages Loma's routinely giving away in terms of weight and reach.

    How rarely he's fought smaller world champions, ones who were world champions below 126

    And on the rare occasion he did ever so conveniently size is mentioned when it's completely ignored all the times he fought way bigger men by the exact same people who not only picked him to lose that fight but who blow industrial amounts of smoke up the asses of their favs who are huge for the weight for beating fighters where there's an even bigger size disparity or much bigger

    How often he's fought bigger/way bigger ones in comparison

    How many punchers he's fought in comparison, punchers who are KO artists and huge punchers who are way bigger than him and are the biggest punchers and KO artists in his third division against fighters their own size. Obviously, duh, if you're facing punchers who are way naturally bigger than you the power is magnified or the complete opposite with the reverse

    How he's never had a single home official whereas so many of his peers from across the pond regularly have a full set of four if not always four

    If he had home officials for his fights he would be undefeated and if they didn't many of them wouldn't be or would have more losses on their ledgers

    He's never having been given the rub of the green by the judges once, they always are

    It's literally night and day
     
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :risas3:. This is one of the most laughable posts I've ever encountered. So you're friends with a top rank director and he told you Lomachenko is scared to fight Stank ? This cannot be real lol you're doing everything in your power to look foolish. Not one sentence you've typed has any logic whatsoever
    Prime Linares would give Stank the fight of his life. If Tank loses at any point I'll come back just to clown your stupidity. Just like i did when your country man Ajagba got humiliated. It was satisfying
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stank has fought nobody of note at lightweight

    :bananaride
     
  12. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Like I said proof that you are racist. Unlike you I did not make excuses for Ajagba losing to the gifted Frankie Sanchez rather admitting Sanchez gave the powerful Ajagba a cocktail with his skills and mobility Ajagba could not handle. The difference between you and I is I am a boxing man you are not. Rather you are a racist troll who does not like or understand boxing. A true boxing fan would appreciate Tank but a ****er like you refers to him as Stank which makes you look like the ******* you are. I have not told you my discussions with my people in the game either at Top Rank or PBC and I never will but needless to say I know things you don’t. Now **** off and go and wank yourself off tosser.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Racist LOL do you even know the definition of racist ? You are so thick skulled it's laughable
     
  14. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    You are so dumb and it’s totally transparent such is your stupidity. If you want to speak boxing let’s speak but if not keep your opinions to yourself.
     
  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is the official definition of racist Olu. Go ahead, look it up, and type it out to me.

    LOL i haven't said anything discriminatory about your race so stop pulling out the race card when it's convinced for your ego doofus. You're clearly backed into a cornor from your own doing. You're truly an idiot