Clenelos record isn't as impressive as fanboys think it is

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  1. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Kovalev is old, way past his prime and has an absolute cracked chin and body. He was looking good and boxing Clenelos head off for a while, then he tired and gassed. Clenbuterol knocked him out clean.

    Yildirim is a bum. Look what Eubank did to him and how Clenelo managed to "stop" him.

    Callum Smith was drained to ****ing hell when he fought Clenbuterol and i think at 175 Smith would do a lot better. Clenboy never came close to get a stoppage there.

    Plant and BJS were doing actually quite well too. BJS arguably was leading on a fair scorecard and Plant was winning rounds handily early on. Plant is well known for his bad gas tank and he gassed and got stopped. BJS quit after a punch broke his orbital bone which is bad luck. How often a high profile fight like that is stopped by a broken orbital bone? Rarely.

    Fielding was a bum and weak to the body.

    Jacobs fight was actually close but Jacobs did what he usually does. Less enough to impress the judges.

    We all know that GGG 1+2 were razor close fights where Clenboy should have a L in the first fight. That series should have been a 1-1 after 2.

    Overall Clenelos record isn't as impressive as people think it is. There are a lot of asteriks in his recent fights and a lot of them could have gone another way IF a) the opponent had a better gas tank b) the judges weren't bought.

    Bivol is definitely not a gasser. So if there is no BS hidden weight cut clause or something he should be absolutely fine. I think people will be surprised how close the fight is and how well Bivol does in open space (not so much in the pocket though).

    Nevertheless i have no faith in fair and accurate scorecards. People tend to score close rounds for Clenelo just because he comes forward and throws a big power shot every 30 seconds. You saw in the BJS fight where BJS was jabbing his head off and still a lof ot people scored those rounds for Clenbuterol - like the judges did as well. It's pathetic but it is how the game works and why Clenelo is a $$$ printing machine.

    I'm going with Clenelo by Decision and i think it'll be another debatable one where you see a lot of good and fair scorecards scoring it for Bivol. Bivols style isn't great to win on the road though so be prepared for another home cooked decision in Vegas. The anti russian bias recently will do the rest.
     
  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    I think youre triggered by the "Fanboys".
     
  3. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo is the perfect boxer to rig cards for. Moves forward, throws those oomph power punches, and when pushed back has flashy defense.
     
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  4. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Clownelo Alvaroids.
     
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  5. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo lost both fights to GGG,
    People who say Canelo won the 2nd fight are looking for excuses to give him the fight or were just manipulated by the fact that Canelo was on the front foot.

    GGG landed more shots, GGG landed the harder shots.
     
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  6. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Do i sound angry or triggered? I just pointed out facts. If you disagree with me it's fine...feel free to refute all my arguments and points. If you're good at it i'll accept it and admit that i was wrong.
     
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  7. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, mostly. Apart from GGG 8-4d Canelo twice. Lara got robbed blind. Trout was close, arguable either way, I gave it to Clen. This is not to mention his dodgy fights with Kovalev, Yildrim and the like. It's amazing how easily people can be fooled.. Especially into believing this guy is p4p no. 1 lmao.
     
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  8. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    I mean you made another thread about Canelo, and now youre referring to canelo fans being "fanboys", sounds like youre a little triggered.
     
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  9. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo be having a lot of people in they feelings it’s a bit sad really
     
  10. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    There are a lot of Clenelo fanboys in the press too...i'm not necessarily talking about this forum or some specific topics.

    I just mentioned facts.

    Feel free to respond if you have arguments.
     
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  11. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone would be triggered by the masssive flux of deluded fans supporting that fraud. He's tainted boxing
     
  12. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Youre tainted space on a boxing forum.
     
  13. Renaldo's Last Stand

    Renaldo's Last Stand Member banned Full Member

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    I liken it to Mayweather's...the names are there, the fights are there, but people will always try to spin it that they fought their opponents either at the right time, or with some type of weight or catch weight advantage.
    They are legitimate points, but it's also true that the numbers don't lie and they still beat all those opponents.
    To be completely honest, I would have much preferred Canelo stuck around at middleweight, even if he didn't fight GG again, I think there were more exciting and entertaining fights for him there, especially against an opponent like Charlo or even Andrade would have really spiced things up.
    I'm sorry but the Caleb's and Liam's and the Billy Joe's just don't do it for me. They were all cute wins, but none of those boys came to throw hands with Cenelo.
    I am a bit intrigued by the Bivol fight, but only because Bivol has been so hyped that I'm interested to see what all the fuss is sbout
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not just his "fans". He has the support and admiration of the wider boxing community, outside of a bunch of butthurt GGG fans who still can't get over what happened when they fought. Look at how popular he is, the reception he gets in Vegas in unparalleled. He always receives a hero's welcome from his passionate Mexican fanbase. He's a massive box office draw. Everytime he fights it's like the Super Bowl of boxing. This fight with Bivol is bigger than you realize. Movie theaters across America are showing the fight live.

    You just wait till Saturday, you'll see all the big names, big celebrities come out in droves to see this guy fight. He's as big if not a bigger draw than Floyd Mayweather was at this point, and he has a better more fan friendly attitude than Mayweather who has turned into a very insecure little man. Canelo is carrying boxing on his shoulders and has been for years ever since that diva left the sport. So it's more than just a "masssive flux of deluded fans" lol.
    Newsflash bud, he is universally recognized as P4P #1, not just by his fans but by all the boxing experts. You'd be inconsolable to not recognize him as P4P #1 at this point. There's nothing to be fooled about, he's by far the most fan friendly and entertaining fighter in decades. He level of technique and discipline is off the charts. And not only that, he has the right attitude, he has the drive and motivation to achieve greatness, to take on the biggest challenges and to deliver outstanding performances to the fans. What's not to like? What's not to appreciate?

    I think you're jealous or envious of Canelo and have an deeply rooted emotional attachment to want so badly to see him lose because you can't stand seeing a fighter like Canelo come from notihing and make it big. It's sad, it's sad that you can't see or appreciate greatness when it's so clear that we're in the midst of witnessing one of the ATGs. But that's your loss. True boxing fans aren't emotionally charged fanboys who carry grudges against him because he's red haired or because he's not your typical cookie cutter fighter.

    Canelo is a true inspiration to the young generation, his work ethic and dedication to the sport is obvious to anyone who has paid attention to his career, he has inspired so many young fighters to follow in his footsteps. It's difficult to comprehend how you can't see or appreciate what we are witnessing with Canelo.

    We are on the verge of a dramatic and significant encounter with Bivol and this is a fight that we all should be excited about and looking forward to. You can't detract from a fight of this magnitude by airing your insecurities and conspiracies for the millionth time. If you're a boxing fan, we are 2 days away from a massive showdown, it's time to get hyped.
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seeing Canelo induced meltdowns on a daily basis around here just speak to Canelo's star power and level of achievement. We wouldn't see these dregs of humanity make such a stink about this guy if he wasn't achieving greatness and delivering on a consistent basis.

    This is truly unlike anything we've ever seen in boxing. A modern day warrior like Canelo who has such a genuine enthusiasm and passion for boxing, for performing under the bright lights. I truly feel sorry for anyone who can't appreciate or respect what he has brought to boxing and what he continues to do bringing this sport to new heights. I'm so glad he left that sissy De La Hoya and aligned with Eddie Hearn. They work so well together and you can tell how happy Eddie is to be along for the ride. You can see the passion in Eddie Hearn's eyes when he talks about Canelo and what he continues to bring to the sport.
     
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