I was 50/50 before the fight but....

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  1. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bivol dominates Beterbiev from bell to bell.
     
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  3. IsaL

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    Bivol has a higher ring IQ than Beterbiev.
     
  4. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can't see Beterbiev being able to offset Bivols timing and focus. His concentration and iq is way above anything Beterbiev has displayed.
     
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    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    But he has far less power, and Beterbiev is brutal when he closes distance.
    Also, Beterbiev is technically very sound.
     
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  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Bivol is better than Beterbiev. Power is only one factor in boxing. Defense, Ring IQ, Speed, Ring Generalship are equal factors and Bivol seems to have edge.
     
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    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Power, Beterbiev >> Bivol
    Ring IQ, Bivol > Beterbiev
    Speed, Bivol > Beterbiev
    Ring Generalship, Beterbiev > Bivol
    Stamina Beterbiev > Bivol
     
  8. BCS8

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    On the face of it I'd agree that Bivol * should * out box Beterbiev.

    But I'm of the opinion that Gvozdyk is as good or better than Bivol and we all saw what Beterbiev did to him.

    The raw physicality and thudding power Beterbiev brings to the table is something else. It seems to define all of his fights.
     
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  9. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev's defense is decent, offence is excellent and he is very smart. Rarely out of balance, always calm. He will get Bivol in a corner and put a world of hurt on him. Canelo simply wasn't big or strong enough to do that to Bivol.
     
  10. SpeedKills

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    Canelo’s defense made Bivol look slightly impotent. I don’t think he’d have that trouble vs Beterbiev like he didn’t vs Pascal and Smith. Beterbiev will be much easier for Bivol to land on when he wants to.
     
  11. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev's defence is his attack. His offence will be far better than Canelo's.
     
  12. SpeedKills

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    Sure. It’s a matter of can he break Bivol down before he himself gets broken down from being lit up.
     
  13. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Still 50/50 on that, but maybe edging towards 51/49 on Bivol for a couple of reasons:-

    1) Beterbiev is clearly in decline and is 37 now
    2) Bivol came through the body test against Canelo with flying colours, and showed he could use his IQ to turn Canelo and keep the fight ay his distance
    3) Bivol's poker-face and discipline in executing a flawless gameplan with fluid, economical efficiency was really impressive

    However, Beterbiev has such concussive power from short blows that he could disrupt and break down all of Bivol's strengths; that's why it's my most wanted fight, and has been for ages!
     
  14. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gvozdyk punched harder than Bivol. Beterbiev took his punches and found him.
     
  15. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    Great matchup of speed vs power, each an ace card for these two