Andre ward vs canelo Álvarez 168 (prime)

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Canelo vs ward

  1. Canelo u.d

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  2. Canelo k.o

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  3. Ward u.d

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  4. Ward k.o

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  1. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    Canelo's best weight is at 168... he has a great punch and is fast... ward is a great 168 he is one of the best that ever existed... both fighters in their prime
     
  2. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I won’t say 168 is his best weight 168 is where he’s fought his weakest opposition so he looked like a monster..

    JMW- Floyd, Lara, Trout
    MW- Cotto, GGG, Jacobs
    SMW- Smith, BJS, Plant
    LHW- Kovalev and Bivol

    Think about the only group of fighters he’s looked like a monster against.. That’s how weak that 168 run is..
     
  3. ILikeBoxingForRealz

    ILikeBoxingForRealz Active Member Full Member

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    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo is a LMW. Ward I'd in an easy fight
     
  5. Johnny1987

    Johnny1987 Active Member Full Member

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    I don’t think Ward has the power to keep Canelo off him, he has some boxing ability to do well for a while until he would have to resort to dirty tactics.

    I’d say its a 50/50 between two slightly above average fighters.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Ward would beat any version of Canelo 100 out of 100 times, even now if he chose to come out of retirement.
     
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  7. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Would be a good competitive fight.
     
  8. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    This is ridiculous. Ward would only beat any version of Canelo 99 out of a 100 times.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Ward is a stylistic nightmare for canelo.
     
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  10. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pff we'll see what Shadow has to say on this...
     
  11. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with others clearing 168 when the quality simply isn't there doesn't mean that much.
    Canelo won very controversial fights at 154 and 160 so thinking he beats an elite at 168 is not based on evidence.
    Roy. Joe and Andre all beat Ginger without too much trouble.
     
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  12. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ...Don't forget Toney....Milk...
     
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  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    It doesn't matter. Ward like bivol and pbf have skills that can exploit canelos flaws.
     
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  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I also think Calzaghe would've given him fits as well at 168 with his flurries workrate and speed.
     
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  15. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ward.. in reality it's actually hard to gauge how good Canelo is at super middleweight because his opposition is terrible… If you look at plant, Saunders and Smith they haven't beaten anybody… And one of them is a career middleweight.. all were pretty inactive as well.. The trinket belts look good but there's nothing behind them… I mean who they beat other than a shot Groves & an old Truax? No one.. he jumped up & fought them fair play but in reality Smith bottled it & was coming off a loss* & cringe hands Plant was outboxing him anyway :lol: