Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    I really DID rewatch the thing after talking to the Shadow.

    I had given 4 and 9 to Canelo.

    On the balance of probabilities, and in the clear light of next-day, and ignoring sympathy considerations, I would probably revise my 10-2 score to 12 - 0.


    ( And I didn't need to watch any of it in slo-mo. :biggrin: )
     
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  2. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Canelo won 4 rounds. He wasn't dominated like many want to believe...
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain VIP Member Full Member

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    No...Bivol won eight rounds clearly.

    Canelo won zero rounds clearly.

    If we toss the rounds that you could have even the slightest of argument about, Bivol won the thing 8 - 0.

    10 - 2 is being reasonable and generous to Saul.

    Bivol was too big, too strong, too busy, and too good.

    No shame there for Canelo.
     
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  4. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shadow having palpitations and panic attacks rewatching these rounds realising Canelo has an extremely poor case for rounds 1 - 3

    Maybe shadows topped himself like 22IQ. ASSOLs been fairly quite too, seems like he's in a depressive hiding state.

    Guys maybe we need to start going easy on the Canelo cucks. Starting to feel sorry for the irrational excuses and made up narratives
     
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  5. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Yeah, you've just parroting what the judges said. I did not see anyone scoring in real time give Canelo the 1st 4 rounds.
     
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    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Teddy Atlas laid out the fix in his podcast today.

    Predetermined that the first 4 rounds go to Canelo. If the fight is stopped on cuts after the 4th, then Canelo wins a "fair" decision. Give the next 4 rounds to Bivol so they can claim "hey I gave him some rounds". Vote for Canelo in the 9th so Saul is ahead by 1 round.

    ALL THREE JUDGES HAD THE SAME CARDS THROUGHT THE 9TH ROUND, Canelo was ahead going into the championship rounds 10-12. But Bivol thrashed Canelo so badly the HAD to give him the 12th and thus the narrow victory.
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Muahhahahahah, which are this round, so we can all have a good laugh at you ?
     
  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah i have other stuffs to do, but i will rewatch it now, HD, and will slow-mo if needed, but so far(round 3) it's all clear as a day for Bivol.

    It's a clear corruption at its hinest at this reta***** paid judges score the the first 4 round to Clenbutoreols.

    Clendiva fans are the worst one. Their fanhero is throwing 10x less punches, and it's 10x less active then his opponent, it's shows for 10-20 seconds in the round, and this ******s are scoring the round for him, and then say we are bias, just LOL !!!
    Bivol is dominating him, throwing combination at will, counter-punching his ***, have great movement and actually shows how it's done, you dodge/block punches and you counter your flurry.

    Get the **** out of here, but no one should score a round for a fighter that is being dominated for 2 minutes and 50 seconds, and land partially so call "power" punch to the body/head, and so call "steal" the round. This is pure garbage bias.
     
  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bro Bivol blocked pretty much every hook/right hand, uppercut Clenbuterolos throw, but his fans hit a new low, and is saying now that his strategy was to intentionally hit Bivols Guard. :D
    Oh dear they are beyond delusional.

    Bivol hasn't had a single mark at the end of round 3, and Canelo was RED HOT, and was looking frustrated as hell and already looking tired.

    How in the blue hell anyone can score any of the 1-3 round for this Diva ?
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All you need to know about Q is that he scored Round 6 of the Canelo GGG rematch to GGG. That was one of Canelo's best rounds and pretty much everyone scored that round to Canelo besides him. Not only that, but he acted like his way was the only way to score that round. Once Q makes up his mind about a round, it's all over, there's no ifs ands or buts about it and if you don't agree with him he goes after you about it. This is one-track mind thinking. The reality is that Canelo has many close rounds in his fights that could be interpreted either way. Against Bivol, many people disagree about rounds 1-4 so they're not open and shut rounds like Q is trying to make it seem like. This dude needs to be more open minded that people see it differently than he does and he should respect that.

    That said, if you scored some of those to Bivol (rounds 1-4) I don't think that's crazy or anything but they were close enough to score for Canelo. And that has to do with the flashy shots he landed, like those big uppercuts which catch the judges eye and swing rounds. Q would naturally prefer Bivol's workrate and volume which is OK but he should be able to understand why the judges gave those rounds to Canelo. The uppercuts might not have had the same oomph on them as they did against GGG, Bivol's defense was much tighter against GGG's was but they still landed good and were noticeable. At the end of the day, whether you agree with them or not, the judges gave him those rounds against Bivol because of those big flashy shots, even though we agree he was outlanded and outjabbed, but it wasn't like the shots Bivol landed were that clean either. Both Canelo and Bivol landed at very low %s early on, it was just that in the later rounds Bivol started landing cleaner, which I'd say was more due to Canelo fatiguing than anything and not having his usual active guard. But in the early rounds, Canelo's blocking was on point and was picking off most of Bivol's shots and then landing those big uppercuts which won him the round.

    As far as Q arguing that I'm biased, he's showed that he's far more biased than me, having this fight 12-0 to Bivol or 11-1 Bivol is utterly mad. That's worse than Adalaide Byrd scoring Canelo GGG 1 118-110. Yes Bivol won, and won it convincingly, but on a RBR basis it was somewhere in the range of 9-3 to 7-5 depending on how you scored those early rounds. Most people outside of a couple Canelo hater outliers scored it 9-3 or 8-4 Bivol.
     
  12. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your credibility is finished....
     
  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most people had it either 9-3 or 8-4, those aren't my scores it's just what I'm seeing, I watched several people review the fight and those are the most common scores. Scoring it wider than that is being very favorable to Bivol but it isn't that surprising given what we've seen in past Canelo fights.
     
  14. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    YAWN...even slimeball eddie has jumped ship from canelo now showing GGG the god of war's real scoring ....Bivol just compounded the truth we all knew...mummy Alvarez...
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    OK be a drama queen and keep crying about it all you want. You sound like a scorned ex-girlfriend lmao.
    10X more punches?? LOL exaggerate much? Bivol threw a lot more punches, but it wasn't even 2X more. Both fighters landed very low %s but Bivol threw a lot more, but Canelo had the bigger better flashy shots so in close rounds like 1-4 the judges favored those. No need to throw a hissy fit about it, calm down bud and don't get your panties in a bunch over it lol.
    Blah blah blah same old crap, give it a rest. Learn how to score.
    That's a misrepresentation of what those round were. GTFOH with your being dominated for 2 minutes 50 seconds. 1-4 were very close throughout.