Hearns only fought one of the top guys at 147 and he got stopped. Stop trying to spin this like he fought them all. Cuevas was Porter level.
Hearns was dried out and inexperienced at 147, hence more vulnerable. Hence, he got stopped. Oscar was among the best fighters on the planet when Shane beat him. Cuevas never was. Margarito was a huge guy who was cutting with day before weigh ins and steam rolling guys. Cueves was a midget. I'd give Forrest a great shot at beating Barkley.
Good. I was about to end the conversation because it’s completely disingenuous to try to claim that Hearns has a top ten welter resume. H2h, sure. Resume is just a fan driven narrative.
Btw Porter beat Devon Alexander, Ugas, D Garcia, Berto, Broner, Malignaggi, and Usyk in the ams. He went to war w top tier guys like Spence and Crawford instead of getting blown out like Cuevas.
I'm not sure how you'd garner that. Actually didn't you call DP gossipy the other day? Is it that time of the month again? It seems to be daily.
01 - Sugar Ray Robinson ------------------------------------- 02 - Ray Leonard 03 - Jack Britton 04 - Jose Napoles ------------------------------------- 05 - Emile Griffiths 06 - Henry Armstrong 07 - Kid Gavilan -------------------------------------- 08 - Tommy Hearns 09 - Floyd Mayweather 10 - Ted Kid Lewis 11 - Tommy Ryan 12 - Joe Walcott 13 - Jackie Fields 14 - Mickey Walker ------------------------------------- 15 - Barney Ross ------------------------------------- 16 - Jimmy McLarnin ------------------------------------ 17 - Curtis Cokes ----------------------------------- 18 - Luis Manuel Rodriguez 19 - Manny Pacquiao 20 - Felix Trinidad 21 - Roberto Duran 22 - Carmen Basilio 23 - Young Corbett III 24 - Oscar De La Hoya ------------------------------------ 25 - Pernell Whitaker 26 - Charley Burley 27 - Donald Curry 28 - Marlon Starling ----------------------------------- 29 - Shane Mosley 30 - Fritzie Zivic 31 - Billy Grahm 32 - Lloyd Honeyghan 33 - Lou Brouillard 34 - Wilfred Benitez 35 - Carlos Palomino 36 - Pipino Cuevas -------------------------------------- 37 - Mike Glover 38 - Billy Smith 39 - Rube Fearns 40 - Cocoa Kid 41 - Young Jack Thompson 42 - Paddy Duffy 43 - Dave Shade ----------------------------------------- 44 - Joe Dundee 45 - Jack Carroll 46 - Vernon Forrest 47 - Benny Parret 48 - James McGirt 49 - Ike Quartey 50 - Simon Brown
Yeah, Hearns's high ranking stood out to me too. Long time chanpions like Griffith and Mayweather should probably also be higher.
I think we’d objectively have to put Ricardo Mayorga ahead of Hearns on resume at 147. The man knocked out Six Heads and beat Forrest twice, unifying titles. This is surely better than beating Cuevas, Benitez’s stepping stones, and getting stopped by Leonard.
It’s true that Hearns was among the best h2h at welter, but it’s sad how fandom prevents posters from admitting how limited his 147 resume is.
Personally, I don't give a toss about fantasy h2h, but I give Hearns lots of credit for crushing Cuevas like that. But still, though, closer to Pac (whose beat down of for example Cotto was absolutely immense) at WW than Mayweather, I think.
Pac has the title defenses that Hearns lacks. He beat Bradley twice, who was on pfp lists, arguably three times, and somehow topped Thurman while way past it.
