Perhaps the most desired prime for prime HW match-up ever, with a slight twist that in no way impacts the meaningfulness of the core distinguishing characteristics of these 2 ATGs... Ali was 5 arms on each side of his body, three on the left side & 2 on the right twice the length of his regular arms. And one that starts just below his belt. Tyson looks & fights exactly the same as ever, except he is barely taller than the tallest pituitary case ever, & his blows come over 50% harder than all his regular punches. To make it easier to contemplate, yes Ali has the same control & coordination of his limbs as with "only" 2 arms. Tyson has the same strength & proportions except his weight is enormous since he has grown over 3' taller. Can Ali land enough to befuddle, overwhelm & even KO Tyson, throwing punches at a dizzying rate, & still have extras left for others tp be successfully deployed defensively? Will he finally go to an enormous body with such a large target & so many weapons? Will punching at such steep angles-especially going to the head-handicap him? Can he break Tyson down & lower his peak-a-boo guard? Can Tyson penetrate & will he finally become an inside fighter by necessity? Would his power, presumably now the GOAT, disable Ali's arms or fabled chin before Ali can land an S & M dungeon's closet's worth of leather on him? In this case either man could score a KO, Tyson maybe somewhat more likely with his power, but it would seem only Ali is likely outscore/decision his opponent. So Tyson cannot just lean push & pull his way to possible victory with his enormous bulk, & Ali not out-octopus Terrel to tire & nuetralize Tyson... 15 rounds, neutral sized ring, referee a pretty strict enforcer of the rules.
The questions are getting weirder and weirder here on Classic! Anyway... an 800 lbs Tyson would obviously crush Ali like a bug - no matter how many arms we give him!
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I'm taking the Scientific approach to this match up: If Muhammad Ali, with 2 arms, could beat Superman, then it's a scientific, bonafide, acceptable, peer-reviewed, and homogenized conclusion that an 11 armed Muhammad Ali could at least Decision MEGA-TYSON. I'm going with Ali by Decision. (IMHO, of course.)
As a CompuBox operator, imagine being allocated the 11 armed Ali to monitor and count his punches? Talk about having your work cut out for you. Muhammad could peel off 4-5 punches with just 2 arms and hands in about 2 seconds. Multiply that by about 5 1/2 over the same short duration. It’s gonna be hard to keep up with - it’d look freaky like Neo in The Matrix. And, when the decision is announced, with Ali as winner - exactly which hand does the ref raise? I would at least steer clear of the one just below the belt line. Also, don’t get me started on the possibility of multiple torn gloves and replacements required for same.
OK Bukkake said 800 lbs., but 2 things... I stipulated his power at 1.5 X what it really was-& there are diminishing returns at a certain size, but we cannot give him more than the assigned preconditions/allocated capacities. So what is it about the greater weight that might win it for him? Are you assuming better punch resistance? IF so, it would not stop him from losing a decision. Also, where are you guys getting these numbers? Usually 4/5 lbs. per inch is standard, Tyson is bulkier, so 6 lbs. per inch, 60 lbs. per foot, we do not get much over 400 lbs., what am I missing in how you guys are calculating this?
Look up square-cube law And people get diminishing returns in real life because their skeletal system can't support that much muscle mass (or in the case of giants because they have a severe disorder of some kind). Tyson's skeletal system in this case would increase proportionally to his muscles.
Thanks I was generally aware of this, but how would this overturn what is used & seems to apply in weight per inch charts? You can say that those numbers should be exponential not additive, but why? If 4-5 lbs. per inch works in the case of weight charts to define what someone with the same non-overweight mass should & does carry-& Tyson carried 1/3 more lean mass for his height meaning 6 lbs. per lb., how on earth do we get even near 800 lbs? This is obviously wrong to apply to humans, since we can see a bunch of non-obese, sometimes heavily muscled guys who effectively "scale up" over 1/3 of what Tyson & other average stature guys would need to get to 9': I am saying guys who are 7' tall & bulky are around 300 lbs. But here is a potential problem, would it apply to 9' guys who were NOT a result of a disorder such as a pituitary problem? From the Wikipedia page about this law: Biomechanics If an animal were isometrically scaled up by a considerable amount, its relative muscular strength would be severely reduced, since the cross section of its muscles would increase by the square of the scaling factor while its mass would increase by the cube of the scaling factor. As a result of this, cardiovascular and respiratory functions would be severely burdened. But I do not know if 9' is enough to meet the "considerable amount" threshold. And
The key to this is what you say in the OP: That Tyson looks exactly the same, with the same proportions! In other words, we're dealing with a Tyson, who's simply enlarged/scaled up - until he's 9' tall. If we say the "real" Tyson was 5'10" (70") and 220 lbs, the calculations for a 9' (108") Tyson look like this: 108 cubed/70 cubed, multiplied by 220 - which comes to 807.98
