Where would you rank Floyd Mayweather on the greatest boxers in history?

That’s a little too low!

 

I mean you could realistically make do that to any fighter in boxing history which I’ll make an example of later on, now looking at the fights you mentioned pretty much your issue is Floyd Welter resume even tho that was his 4th division, yet somehow we ignore all the top fighters he fought in his first 2/3.

now speaking of opposition and the fights you mentioned Cotto himself had the opportunity to unify vs Floyd at 140 and turned down the fight and also was on record saying he never asked for or tried to make the Floyd fight at any point. You discredit the Martinez win yet up until he blew out his bicep in his last fight after Floyd Cotto was in a 4/5 fight winning streak all by TKO and moved up in weight won another title and I believe won a title at 154.
Baldomir was on a 10year unbeaten streak going into the fight and to make a point Floyd beat Baldomir and Judah that last 2 TRUE undisputed champions.

as far as Manny this man is on record turning down the fight vs Floyd multiple times. 2009 laughed at drug testing which was the first and only thing asked team said they were more worried about money after Floyd agreed to all they demands they doubled back and backed out the fight because they needed a month off of testing.
2010/11 got Manny lying about agree to full testing only for it to come out during the build up to the Margarito fight that he flexed and only agree to testing with cutoff stipulations,
2012 after Floyd started religiously calling him out after the Marquez III and Ortiz fights we heard about 50 different excuses from they need a stadium, to they got a cut that won’t heal to. They don’t know why Floyd is calling and then finally saying they would only agree to 50/50 after Floyd offered him 40mil+ ppv. You can’t ignore that even though most people do.
Canelo you talking about having a close fight with Lara that’s what’s supposed to happen when you’re fighting the best and Trout for the longest time outside of Canelo and Lara had an argument for winning vs guys like the Charlos etc.

now look at Sugar Ray Leonard lost to a LW moving up in weight
Was losing to hearns in fight I before a lucky KO and robbed hearns in fight II and robbed Hagler and avoided him for years
Lost to terry norris and Camacho.
Had a catchweight fight for a 168&175 title in the same fight to call himself a 175 champ.

 

at 130 Casamayor and Freitas were on record ducking out of a fight vs Floyd because “it was a guaranteed loss for not enough pay”
Tyzu fight at 140 promotion issues tyzu was Shotime Floyd HBO fight not big enough, Hatton along with Cotto ran from Floyd at 140 Hatton himself didn’t feel confident until after he beat Castillo at 140. Both Hatton and Cotto were ringside for the Gatti fight who was rated #1 behind the division champion Tyzu after seeing the massacre opted not to take the fight TR also set up a fight vs Brussels who was a contender at the time because he grew up with and trained with Cotto and his trainer and had similar styles to get a measure of how Miguel would do and again opted against it.
Manny ducked Floyd multiple times repeatedly from drug testing originally to having a cut that wouldn’t heal.
Brook and Thurman in 2014 were nobodies and honestly even now they still nobodies Brook didn’t win a title til later on and was a paper champ whose never really beat anybody before or after and Thurman had a chance was told if he fought another young contender in Errol Spence and won Floyd would fight him and Thurman proceeded to run from Spence for going on 8years now.

everything I just posted is factual and can be easily verified but people in they feeling about Floyd will say make some try or of rational to excuse every one of the actions listed and blame Floyd

 

Duran was special.

 

name something I stated that can’t be easily verified?

 

I rate Floyd Mayweather a big ol' **..YAWN..**

 

Just to be clear on the ranking system: does rank 15 = the 16th greatest boxer in history?

 

The Brusseles thing is one of the most ridiculous things ive heard it had to come out of a known fanboy known for fabricating things. He fought Brusseles for one reason only and that was to become mandatory to fight Gatti who wouldnt fight him otherwise thats the reason not the BS that you vomited on that post.

But im not going to do all the work for you i did one now its up to you to prove what you said with facts.

You can start with Casamayor saying he wouldnt fight Floyd at 130 cause it was a garanteed loss.

3...2...1..GO.

 

14, right after Pacquiao.

 

Top 30 to top 50.Too many question marks regarding cherry picking. PED use and card stacking to rate higher.
The sport has a long history and the very best truly tested themselves Floyd never did push that boundry for me.
I would rate Pacman slightly higher as he actially did.

 

Nothing but crickets...

Clowns making up things.

as if Casa was ever scared of anyone at 130 or 135.

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2nd best of his era behind Pacquiao, so probably top 30 of all time

 

acie2g,

You’re the one rating him so highly based on his resume.

If you’re going to rate someone that highly, then they have to be put under the microscope.

I haven’t been unfair in what I’ve said.

I have been objective and have told the truth.

I gave him credit for beating Oscar, and I’ve not questioned any of his early wins as ‘PBF’ as I agree with you in that they were excellent.

I’ve not mentioned why he didn’t fight Cotto earlier, I’m just telling you that he doesn’t hold a great win over him.

Regarding Martinez, I’m referring to Sergio Martinez. Cotto only holds a win over him, as he was shot. The point is: Floyd doesn’t have a great win over Cotto, just because Cotto won the lineal MW title from Martinez.

I don’t care what streak Baldomir had. Baldomir wasn’t a great fighter, and he’d never have been hailed as a great champion in a better era. He’d have done nothing great in the current era, or back in the 80’s and 90’s.

We’ve discussed this numerous times.

You are completely blinded.

The landscape was completely different back then, and Manny’s wish of a cut off, which would have included immediate after fight blood and urine tests, shouldn’t have been an issue. Not when Manny had concerns due to what had happened with Morales back in 2005, and considering that no other fighter was tested in that way. Floyd never tested any of his other opponents. Nobody else had an issue fighting Manny back then. What Floyd wanted wasn’t the norm.

They then tried to negotiate the number of cut off days but couldn’t find a compromise.

Yet when Manny went back and conceded to Floyd, instead of trying to make the fight, Floyd said that the offer was no longer on the table. Now why haven’t you questioned that?

A few years down the line, Manny publicly agreed to everything. Yet the fight still didn’t happen for a further 18 months.


Again, you are blinded through emotion.

This is what Floyd said:

“We don’t fight to see who’s the best”

“It wasn’t the right time to fight Manny back then. Now is the right time”


Why would Manny have accepted $40m from a fight which grossed over $400m?

Why do you ignore that it was Floyd who took PEDS??

The point is: Neither Lara or Trout are great fighters.

Canelo scraping by them tells us that Floyd didn’t beat a great fighter when he beat Canelo back in 2013.

Ray lost to Duran who was at his best. A fighter who makes most people’s top 20 of all time. He wasn’t just some LW. He was an incredible fighter. That specific version of Duran who beat Ray was a better fighter than any fighter who Floyd ever fought.

He didn’t land a lucky punch on Hearns. He switched tactics and went to war with Hearns and then broke him down. Give him credit.

Floyd would never have fought a guy like Thomas Hearns.

Yes, Ray was awarded a gift decision in the rematch. He’s admitted that himself.

Yes, he lost badly to Norris and Camacho.


Floyd never lost, and he had great longevity.

Floyd deserves huge credit for his longevity and his professionalism.

He was however a safety first fighter.

So whilst it’s okay saying that Ray lost to Terry Norris late in his career, again, that’s just a fight that Floyd wouldn’t ever have risked. Floyd would never have taken a challenge like that towards the end of his career.

Floyd had to retire with Berto and an MMA fighter to ensure that he kept his precious zero.

If Floyd had fought in Ray’s era, then that zero would simply not exist.

 

As the dullest fighter of all time, he is undisputed