Based on Canelo's run following his Mayweather loss, people tended to say the loss benefited him in the end and allowed him to learn and get better which is what set up his reign over the next 9 years. Any chance the Bivol fight might do the same? Canelo is still only 31.
Short answer is no. The long answer is nooooooooo. Canelo moving up and down weights, cycling "beef" then vegan, has put too many miles on himself to improve much more past where he is already. Prime Canelo just lost to Bivol but he can keep his current level for a year or two more which is enough for 168 and occasional cherry picks above.
I.always thought that was such a dumb analogy. Canelo did improve since the Mayweather fight, but I don't know exactly what people are saying he took away from that loss that made him better. He still has trouble TO THIS DAY with movers and defensivly sound boxers, so he couldn't have gained all that much from the loss. If anything, he went back to the drawing board, worked on his own defensive skills, and had some excellent matchups
Canelo will never defeat Bivol and the fight was not even close. Canelo should rematch him but he will lose again but he will slaughter lil g but he needs needs to fight David Benaivides and the Texas 3.
What next level? He doesn’t belong at 175. He still a force at 160-168. Physical limitation is a fact. Canelo just doesn’t have the frame.
CaNeLo LeArNeD So MuCh FrOm ThE fLoYd FihGt. I always thought it was dumb too. There is nothing similar in their tactics. The only thing Canelo learned was, how to take advantage of stardom.
Good question. My initial reaction is that Alvarez is too far down his career/life path to benefit as much from this setback as he did from the earlier one. Even if he just makes the effort (which would mean acknowledging the loss one would think) that would be impressive, imo.
And he learned to use the "A" side thing and I also think he was influenced by the fact that Mayweather stayed in shape and working on his skills between fights. Canelo appears to act in similar fashion in both ways. He could have got all butthurt and deny deny deny, but he didn't. He turned that loss into a win, imo.
Slightly off topic. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Staying in shape and working on skills is why Chavez took so many easy fights in between title fights. He never had time to lose focus because he stayed in the ring so often. Even if it was against bums or taxi drivers, it was a real fight with potential consequences that made him keep that focus and kept his swords sharp for when the real challenges came.
Sure. This is one of the main reasons I tend to pick the fighters of yore in the fantasy matchups. But that's not the sport as it exists in recent years. So second best is to stay in shape and spar and not get loaded all the time, isn't it?
Oh most definitely. I was just bringing up the off topic point of how important staying in shape in between fights is and why people need to evaluate Chavez record with a better understanding of why those particular fights were taken.
The first part of the question is untrue so the rest of it is irrelevant. His boxing skills are not that much better now than they were then. The same flaws that lost him the fight with Floyd, lost him the fight with Bivol. He fought the same way all night long. What him and his team did learn from the Mayweather fight was more on the business angle and that's what helped propel him to where he is at now. Not so much his boxing skills. If he rematches Bivol and fights the same way, he will lose again. I don't think he can change that much. He hasn't changed that much in his whole career. The Bivol loss will send him back down to 168 where Benavidez is and Charlo soon will be. He is in-between a rock and a hard place. His next move will be very crucial to his career.
