Cruiserweight and Heavyweight thread.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by houmzz, Aug 21, 2014.



  1. catchwtboxing

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    He's doing better than his countryman, Dychko.
     
  2. znalniaskas

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    I could probably sign a HW with a legit amateur pedigree and have him do better than Dychko, that's not exactly hard.
    The fact that Warren failed to deliver a promised fight to Zhan hurt him, at some point Universum even considered taking legal action against good old Frank.
     
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  3. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mad signing with Frank in the first place tbh.
     
  4. znalniaskas

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    Universum lacks money, so they were probably desperate to get a co-promotional deal with anyone who has decent money.
     
  5. BeantownAll

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    Rekowski is 42 years-old and has not fought in 4 years. Unless he can somehow conjure his 2014-era self on fight night - this is not a serious opponent for Vykhurst. This is simply a brave man who is destined to get hurt.

    At least Wallisch will give up the first time Charr connects with a flush shot
     
  6. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well it's not *recent* news and probably of very little general interest, but...

    As I expected...Timothy Hatfield was quickly exposed. He fought unheralded (and destined to stay so) Quintin Sumpter on March 26th and suffered an MD loss (38-38, 40-36, 40-36). Apparently Hatfield was struck with a couple overhand rights, went into his shell and remained there.
     
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  7. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dacaarree Scott is scheduled to fight Jonathan Guidry on the undercard of the June 11th Bryan-DuBois fight.

    Guidry, of course, was Bryan's previous opponent and made a competitive fight of it. The rather squat (5' 10", 270+ lbs) Scott had been making some noise with a series of brutal knockouts of suspect opposition, though his most recent fight ended in a lackluster SD decision victory. Guidry at 5' 11" (or thereabouts) is no giant himself.

    On paper this would seem to be a reasonable fight...though I remain skeptical that the Bryan-DuBois fight will actually happen.
     
  8. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Richard Lartey will try to make it 5 losses in a row when he takes on Sergey Kuzmin on May 27th

    Also on the 27th in a separate card 23-21-3 Ron Guerrero takes on 7-4-1 Juan Torres. If Guerreros name sounds familiar its because yes this is the same Ron Guerrero who fought Jameel McCline, Ray Austin, Terrance KO Lewis, Attila Levin, Jeremy Williams, and Gerald Nobles among others. Guerrero turned pro in 1998 and is 48 years old, how the Texas commission is ok'ing him to fight is beyond me, but I will without evidence blame Laurence Cole for no reason.
     
  9. BeantownAll

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    Alante Green (8-0-1) and Elvis Garcia (12-0-0) will face off in a HW fight on a June 10th "Shobox New Generation" card.

    I've posted a bit about Alante Green before. He most recently stopped Samuel Clarkson in 6 rds in a fight that saw Green weigh in at CW and Clarkson...somewhat over the limit. Prior to that he had KO'd Taylor Duerr in 2 rds. Prior to that he won a somewhat lackluster/contested UD decision over fringe contender Stivens Bujaj at CW. Overall, some decent results - but not quite enough to really catch the eye. I had hoped he would try to line up a fight with Apochi or Glanton next - but it looks like he's taking a HW match, instead. The reality is it's just a lot easier to make money as a HW than a CW in N. America - regardless of your level.

    Elvis Garcia had a fine amateur career several years back. He hasn't really fought anybody of note yet as a HW, but I've read articles indicating that he's dropped a lot of weight to make a serious attempt as a professional. He's logged some time as a sparring partner for Anthony Joshua. Green is probably his most serious opponent so far.

    This seems like a good matchup, though I really can't see either man as a serious contender in the HW division. Garcia is a bit taller (6' 2" vs 6' 1/2") and seems to be a more natural heavyweight - so I probably would give him the nod here. If I'm wrong and Green wins, then I hope Green can find himself better fights...at CW.
     
  10. BeantownAll

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    Obviously, I'm late in reporting it...but I don't think this was mentioned on the forum anywhere.

    It seems Adrian Taylor took a SD win over Efetobor Apochi in their 8 rd fight on the April 16th Spence-Ugas card. I have no information concerning this fight apart from the result.

    I'm surprised with that outcome. Taylor didn't seem to have anybody useful (or even recognizable!) on his resume leading up to this fight. And 12 months ago Apochi seemed to be the most dangerous CW active in N. or S. America (with the possible exception of Ryan Rozicki).
     
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  11. BeantownAll

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    My guess?

    This is a quick tune-up before he faces Jared Anderson. Molina has disgraced himself overseas, but hasn't had the pleasure of repeating the experience on his home continent yet.
     
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  12. BeantownAll

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    There is probably a good case to be made for imposing an upper age limit in the sport.

    That being said, Guerrero has been pretty active the past two years. He had a UD win over Maurenzo Smith (an Arreola opponent not all that many years ago) and an SD loss vs. Alonzo Butler in 2020. Neither opponent is great, obviously, but the HW division has far worse than those two. And he had an MD victory last year.

    Guerrero v. Torres doesn't sound like it will make for a memorable evening's entertainment - but I'm honestly more worried about the fate of Marcin Rekowski when he fights Manuel Charr.
     
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  13. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is exactly what I see, doubtful Eddie brings him back but he can still milk it a bit in thecUS before eventually doing the same in Russia or eastern Europe if he wants
     
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  14. Inglis_1

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    You think so? The fight would barely last 30 seconds and Anderson is way past that level. He was meant to fight Hammer before he pulled out which would at least give him rounds if they do eventually get it on.
     
  15. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes. He's definitely past that level. But I'm not 100% certain that the fight cancellation wasn't a last-minute duck by Anderson's camp. I don't think Hammer would pose any real danger of stopping Anderson, but he has a history of making his opponents look bad...even when they win by a wide UD. Yes he's definitely a useful step up but he would not be my first choice for a Televised fight.

    I think they will go with Molina because he's challenged twice for HW belts and while that 2nd challenge was a joke and both challenges are now ancient history - they can still probably sell it to casual fans. Plus Molina is really, obviously at the end of his career and you can probably get him on the cheap.

    With a guy like Anderson - it's going to be hard to find a step-up opponent because he's obviously going to be able to stop most N. American fighters until you start getting to the level of guys like Arreola, Breazeale, Kownacki. And at that point you start having to spend good money and take some chances.

    Looking at the larger picture.

    Fury might actually retire. Whyte is out of the picture. Wilder? Who knows? And the Russia-Ukraine war has made boxing promotion a lot ore dicey. The point I'm trying to make is that opportunities can open up very suddenly in this envrionment (and it's a very different environment than 6 months ago) and we're back to the situation where everybody is protecting their 0s. That includes Anderson's management.
     
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