CW James Toney vs Prime Jack Johnson- Modern rules

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Let it begin. 12 rounds.

    Make your case. No cowards way out polls.

    @cross_trainer Does thou have guts?
     
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  2. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This is a good question. But why not just say the best version of both fighters?
    And no PEDs for Toney.
     
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  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Because the best version of Toney is a middleweight? Also, No PEDs? Why don’t we just not overcomplicate it and use the version of Toney that exists and the one I specified? I choose his CW version because he had his signature win there and had enough size without it being too much of a burden.
     
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  4. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never really a match-up I've thought about. I think the Ref would be huge under modern rules. I think Steve Smoger should be the ref for this since both guys are known inside fighters. Jack has most of the physical advantages and let's be honest if there is one Heavyweight capable shutting down Toney's inside game, Jack Johnson might the guy.

    The more I think about it the more I'm leaning Johnson taking a spoilerific split decision nobody ever watches twice.
     
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  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Johnson, decision ... what did Toney do better ? likely a surgical match up ..
     
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  6. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich 'Iranian flag green' reflecting pool Full Member

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    I'd favor the guy who doesn't have to learn 90+ years of rule changes during the fight.
     
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  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jack Johnson... a fat middleweight is in trouble against him.
     
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  8. quest00

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    I agree with a few of the posters here. Jack Johnson was a magnificent boxer for his time, but the game has evolved. Some let a boxers nostalgic greatness cloud their judgement in comparison to other modern greats.. I'd have to go with my boy JT in this one
     
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  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    But Nat said...
     
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Toney
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    You say that like Jack didn't specialise in beating middleweights :lol:
     
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  12. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Don’t make me bring up 200lbs Journeyman none of us remember or have seen fight. At least half have winning records!
     
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  13. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Still love this every time I see it …

    This content is protected
     
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  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Both so young still. Shame they never met.
     
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  15. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    You mean "Big" James Toney... Oh man. That guy could school George Foreman a really smart guy said so.
     
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