What Is The Worst Performance, of One Of your favourite Classic Fighters?

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sanchez against Cowdell, probably. Pat Ford at least had some power, as decent an excuse as any to not simply bore in and take the play away. Cowdell just gave away nothing. He fought sort of crablike and very defensively, never allowing the counter-punching Sanchez to shine. It was as much a styles issue as anything but not a great outing for the champ.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the issue i sometimes have with threads like this, like you said Ford was very tall for a Featherweight. And Cowdell had an unusual herky jerky style, was it Sanchez having an off night or was it down to styles ? that's the age old question and it's a fine line between the two.
     
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  3. NoNeck

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    Ruddock v. Lewis
    —Ruddock looked so bad that people swore he was “shot” (he wasn’t).

    Ruddock v. Morrison
    —Ruddock was inactive+aging and the result might’ve been different w/o the unwarranted stoppage, but even a shell of Ruddock should’ve been able to destroy Tommy.
     
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  4. Mediocre Amateur

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    I'm not sure how you're defining "classic" but Felix Trinidad was 28 years old, 40-0 (33), and being hyped as the best fighter in the world (and one of the best fighters in history) when he was thoroughly dominated by Bernard Hopkins. He only fought four more times and was similarly dominated by Winky Wright and (to a lesser extent) Roy Jones Jr.

    Has any great fighter (or at least perceived to be great) ever been so non-competitive across multiple defeats?
     
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  5. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed. And I would add Holyfield vs Bowe 3. Something was wrong with Holyfield in that fight, too.
     
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  6. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I recently was able to interview Pat Cowdell regarding Sanchez. Send me a message as a reminder on FB and I’ll send you the transcript. Cowdell had nothing but praise for Sanchez and so very generous, complete opposite of Ruben Castillo.
     
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  7. Journeyman92

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    Zarate vs Gomez.
     
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  8. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Will do, thanks Chris!
     
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  9. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've published my thoughts on Honeyghan on this site before. The late, great Eddie Thomas was sure Curry was dead at the weight 12 months before Lloyd dismantled him.
    Sadly for Colin Jones, Eddie's Radar was just off this time. A privilege to have them in our gym though.
     
  10. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I became a gym mate of Pat's when he switched to the Lynch Brothers' management. He revered Sanchez and that fight. An all round lovely man, he was worshipped in that gym, full as it was, of Champions, Tony Willis, Kostas Petrou, Lloyd Christie, Hughie Forde plus terrific pro's like Steve Early, Martin McGough and Antonio Harris.
    It was awful watching him getting back down to nine Stone for Nelson. His skin was grey. It was obvious what was going to happen. Pat's courage and openness in the interview after that fight tells you all you could ever need to know.
    Last I heard, Pat was enjoying retirement, mostly on the course at Sandwell Valley. I deeply hope this is still the case and that he, wife and now very grown up sons are very, very well.
     
  11. LoadedGlove

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    Teak tough and brilliant John Conteh having no idea in the re-match with Matt Saad Mohammed. We know why now but that was shocking to watch at the time.
     
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  12. Philly161

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    Yeah though at least in Bowe 3 he had some brilliant moments and even dropped Bowe (I think for the only time in Bowes's pro career), though that may have been a case of neither fighter turning in a great performance because Bowe was already kinda over boxing at that point I think.
     
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  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    That uppercut saved the farm. To his credit Holmes did set it up rather skillfully.
     
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  14. Saintpat

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    Due to the previously mentioned factors as well as Mike Weaver being a heck of a fighter who just to that point hadn’t consistently shown it, Holmes-Weaver is one of the best heavyweight title fights of my lifeline.

    As for the topic, a couple come to mind:

    Roberto Duran vs. Kirkland Laing

    Sean O’Grady vs. Andy Gannigan

    Jimmy Young vs. Ossie Ocasio (I and II)

    James Toney vs. Dave Tiberi

    I’m avoiding any fights where a guy is past it or shot and ones where a fighter is simply overmatched — it’s not necessarily a bad performance on a fighter if he’s totally outgunned, simply he doesn’t have the ability to look good vs. that particular fighter.
     
  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    yea it happens. When a fighter loses it it can be rather swift. It could be a bad beating or lack of desire after so much success.
    He was a great fighter and remember that 1st loss he suffered was his 3rd division north of where he won his 1st championship. Hopkins was a great fighter as well. Being a Trinidad fan i was proud at the way he fought vs Hopkins..

    Hopkins was picking him apart very methodically. If Trinidad wanted to he could have gone the distance and lost a UD. Instead Tito chose to go balls to the wall for the knockout in the 10th round.
    That was a great moment for both fighters. Hops had great defense and he needed all of it that round.
    The other two were after he had retired.