What makes you think that Margo can do it?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by o_money, Jul 25, 2008.


  1. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Because if Margarito struggles with any boxer it's a boxer who is bigger and equally, if not moreso, stronger.

    Nobody in recent years has gotten out of the ring with Margarito unscathed. Nobody. And that includes a very good southpaw by the name of Daniel Santos. 6'2" 81" reach Paul Williams never aggressively went at Margarito. He constantly punched and moved. Margarito was still tearing him up late in the fight. The only thing that kept Paul in that fight was his size. He was big enough to absorb all that damage. Ditto for Daniel Santos.

    Margarito has never been beaten by a smaller opponent. Reason being that even if he is hurt he keeps trucking. It's a rare quality to see a boxer like that. Even moreso rare that he has a chin made of titanium. People have tried to box and move and have failed. Lots of very decent guys, not great but not terrible either.

    It will take a very special boxer to beat a bigger man in Margarito. Someone who will be able to punch him hard enough, move quick enough, and stay on top long enough to survive all 12 rounds. Someone who will have the energy to do all that. Either that or it's gonna take someone equally as big with a big enough punch to stop him dead in his tracks. So far that man hasn't come along.

    I don't think Cotto is that good. He is good at pressure and moving forward but I think he's taking a huge step up here. If he tries to box Margarito like he did Mosley he's gonna be in for a very rough night. Margarito won't back off like Mosley, he'll throw many more punches and he will be willing to take one to give one. Many times in the Mosley fight Cotto ended up against the ropes, only to see Mosley back off. Margarito will not do that.
     
  2. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he will most likely get caught at some point. To me it's a matter of Margarito's finishing ability.
     
  3. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    hey i hope he is. prove it with analysis...maybe like he demonstrated his dam goodness in ___ fight where he did ____, which proved that he was ____.

    So far the best arguements for Margo winning are arguement's like San Rafeal's that are arguements against Cotto. Every arguement for Margarito starts and ends with cause he's just that dam good...well put a little analysis into it....and not just cause he throws abunch of punches and is tough. What makes you think he can be that guy against cotto?
     
  4. o_money

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    Thank you. Thats more what I want to see from Margo believers.
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Obviously Cotto has the better skills......

    ......but skill in a boxing match is'nt the only factor. There are other factors of course.....Workrate, stamina, and chin are factors that in many instances can play a bigger role than just skill.
    These are the factors that imo Margarito has more than Cotto, and its the reason that the fight may very well play in his favor.

    I wont be suprised either way, which way the fight goes.

    .....but the way I'm seeing it, if its in any way even fought at semi-war terms, I'm leaning toward Margarito. Cotto imo is going to have to fight a diciplined fight from beggining to end, with no lapses in concentration.

    Margarito has a reach on Cotto.....God help Cotto if Margarito tries to establish a jab early and is able to outjab Cotto.
    If this happens, its likely that Cotto will have no choice but to stick close to Margarito, creating the likelyhood of the War Margarito would prefer to breakout.

    Alot of people in this forum would like to think this is a cut and dry victory scenario for Cotto. I"m just not seeing that.

    Workrate, stamina, chin......anytime a fighter has those things, he's got a chance, especially in this fight where Cotto's chin is deemed to be suspect!

    Either way it goes, I'm just looking foward to a great fight on saturday night!:yep
     
  6. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal damn good post dawg
     
  7. o_money

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    I agree in that when he's been in trouble his is tendency to bang like hell and hope it works out. But I think his win over Mosely and the well rounded skills that he's demonstrated right from the start of his career have to put him in that mold. I'm not saying he is as good as these guys. Maybe he's a poor man's Chavez or something. But he has at least proven that he is more then just a banger, and thats enough for me to at least say that he's got the "content and ability" (as you say) to be a great fighter.
     
  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    His win over Mosley didn't do it for me. I give Miguel some credit for Mosley, but he was far, far fresher than Mosley, and Mosley made it extremely easy for Miguel to score and alternate between offense and defense. The fight itself was very generic and simple. This win was in that category of a De La Hoya over Chavez, Trinidad over Whitaker, and Marciano over Louis.

    Proving that you're "more than just a banger" makes you truly a great fighter? That's it? Not in my book.
     
  9. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has experience and he has done pretty well after round four against Clottey and after round five against Williams. He is very effective applying pressure continuously and wearing down his opponents. Cintron was feeling the pace and punishment already around round two and you can say that because he was complaining to the ref about rabbit punches as early as that. It's a pleasure to reply to you o_money even tho I thought we had already discussed other matters. He gat the goods because he punches hard, has tremendous workrate and activity, is a very good combination puncher and body puncher and all that means trouble for Cotto... It makes no sense to erase all Margo's chances to start with and so there is always food for thought in Margo's favour.
     
  10. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    NO I guess were missing eachother here. I'm not saying that he is a great fighter just he is in the same mold. HE still has to prove it to mee too. Maybe he can do that tommorrow night. What i said was that so far he looks like he has the potential to be a great fighter because of the all round game that he's displayed. Whether or not he can be a well rounded fighter against a high class of opposition is yet to be proven.
     
  11. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    Not much thus far but I swear I'm making efforts.
     
  12. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Thank you. Thats more what I wanted to see. And I agree with you in that there will always be food for thought in Margo's favour. But I'm gonna go out on a lim and say that I'm about 85% sure Cotto's got nothing to worry about.

    P.S.
    Dorfmeister what is the origin of your name? NOt by chance related to any skiers are you?
     
  13. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    Kruder & Dorfmeister, perhaps?
     
  14. o_money

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    who?
     
  15. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The fact that he has a better chin than Cotto and can take his punches and but were not sure of Cotto can do the same. Still I think Cotto takes some big punches every once in a while and wins a UD.