OK, let me phrase my question in a way that will get a straight answer: Do you have any evidence that Greb or his opponents, in his ND fights, were accused of 'taking it easy' or taking obvious dives, etc?
Benny Leonard, Tommy Loughran, Freddie Welsh, Jimmy Wilde, Tony Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Jimmy McLarnin, Freddie Steele, etc, etc etc. All superior on film to Dempsey IMO.
Agree, if RJJ beat all those guys he'd give SRR a run for his money. It's definitely possible to get within reach of Sugar Ray's top spot, though not likely for fighters to try.
How would you explain the top guys from the 1920s who also had success in the 1930s? Does that mean the 1930s actually sucked? If so how do you explain the 1930s guys who had success in the 1940s? I can use this reasoning to prove that every era secretly sucks. This is the truth they don't want you to hear.
Yea he did and yea that win is a tough one to top. Robinson had some great wins like for example beating Kid Gavilan twice right at the end of his Welterweight reign. Gavilan at the time was 23 years old definitely on the rise. Ray was having trouble making 147 by that point in his career. It took a great fighter to hold off that challenge. Consider his 5 wins over LaMotta who is probably a top 10 all time middleweight. In 4 of those wins Robinson was giving away a significant weight pull to a fighter like Jake. In my opinion those are equalp6 as impressive.
Impossible for a modern fighter to accrue the kind of record Robinson did due to the changes in the sport for better or worse.
This is a really bad post. How do you define which fighters are journeymen or not? Because it seems to me you know nothing about the era. Also your blanket dismissal of NWS fights is ridiculous, for a few reasons.
