Beterbiev VS prime RJJ @ LHW

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who takes it

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  2. Beterbiev

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He would KO Ward, but Jones is too mobile.
     
  2. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gee Prime Roy was something special....Would go for Roy Prime.!!!
     
  3. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Do you think Bivol can just jab and take Beterbiev’s punches on his gloves? How does Bivol beat the better boxer who can hurt him with blocked punches?
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Rjj didn't have a glass jaw in his prime too many casuals and people who just started watching boxing smh
     
  5. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy Jones threw an incredible hook he could catch Beterbiev walking him down and hurt him. But Jones was not invincible at light heavy as many try to make him about to be. He was better at super middle. Beterbiev is strong and smart. However his resume much like Triple G, is light because everyone avoids him. He’s 37 already. That’s old. I think it’s a bad match up for Roy. This guy gets on top of you and punches as good as a top cruiser.
     
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  6. shadow111

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    Not a glass jaw, but he was also too quick to really see it ever tested. RJJ was never in with someone with the kind of power Artur possesses. This dude's thudding power could hurt even Prime Roy, but I don't know if he could really land on RJJ. Just too quick in his prime.
     
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  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Yes but he moved through 5 weight classes and only had problems when he came back down from hw to 175.
     
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bivol will move, use angles at every opportunity, outbox him, and avoid being in firing range under any means necessary. He will not fight Beterbiev like he did Canelo, he will fight Beterbiev like he did Pascal. The agility, the reaction speed, the jab, the footspeed, and a boxing brain of biblical proportions. I keep trying to tell everyone, Bivol is better than Gvozdyk.

    Beterbiev has my props, Beterbiev has underrated IQ, and he is a monster. He proved me wrong and annihilate Smith, but Smith tried to brawl. Next Beterbiev will destroy Yarde 0 difficulty. But all of those achievements will be absorbed right into Bivols resume when he steps in the ring with Dimitry.

    If Beterbiev wins he will get his credit and he'll be an ATG for sure, but Bivol will beat him. He will tame the beast.
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Here we go again. Roy beats him easy

    The same Roy who when 2 years younger than Artur is now, who had way less wear and tear on him, wasn't involved in any wars, and rarely got hit, was sparked out cold by average puncher Glen Johnson and dropped heavily and knocked senseless in a couple of rounds by Tarver who Beterbiev hits way way harder than. And knocked bandy legged and dropped by average puncher Del Valle. Artur was even more terrifying back in his absolute prime.

    Look at this murder's row of punchers

    Glenn Kelly
    Anthony Hanshaw
    David Telesco
    Prince Badi Ajamu
    Derrick Harmon
    Eric Harding
    Richard Hall
    Richard Frazier
    Otis Grant
    Lou Del Valle
    Julio Cesar Gonzalez
    Glenn Johnson
    B-Hop
    Antonio Tarver
    Clinton Woods
    Shot Mike McCallum
    Virgil Hill
    Montell Griffin

    Beterbiev is one of the hardest punchers of all time and he's not just a wrecking machine in the pros he was a wrecking machine in the amateurs, the most feared amateur in the sport at the time, and he's an absolute wrecking machine in the gym, routinely knocking out sparring partners and beating them senseless. Ask anyone who has been in camp with him

    Roy would not take Artur's power point blank period. If Artur clips him he hurts him bad and takes him out.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    A prime rjj didn't have chin issues though that's what people here keep forgetting. His chin got bad when he came from hw to 175. Rjj is being ridiculously underrated now yall musta forgot???
     
  11. Easyrhino

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    Other than maybe The Nightcrawler, no one on Planet Earth touches prim RJJ
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    People saying Beterbiev wouldn't be able to catch Roy. No one has ever been able to avoid getting hit by him. He gave master boxer Usykwho was much heavier than him hell in all their fights. He's a lot smarter than many give him credit for. His shots are not telegraphed and easy to see coming and he doesn't even have to catch you clean to completely rattle your senses.
     
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  13. Betyabeatyaup

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    What makes you think Bivol has that in him? Canelo doesn’t have the best footwork and Pascal is an all round average fighter. Beterbiev can outbox Bivol as well. If Bivol had some sort of amateur career to prove he could box with Beterbiev then I might be open to it, but there’s nothing in the pro game that indicates that Bivol could outbox Beterbiev. Maybe watch the second round against Smith again and look at the footwork, timing and punch selection. Beterbiev isn’t just some crude power puncher. Bivol presents nothing that Beterbiev hasn’t seen and dealt with before.
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I don't buy into any of that BS. He was knocked out in the amateurs, dropped heavily by Del Valle and fought very few actual genuine bangers during his prime. I'm not saying Roy couldn't win. I'm saying he would not be able to take Artur's power. I don't even see what's controversial about this Beterbiev is one of the hardest and most fearsome punchers of all time.
     
  15. The Long Count

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    Roy at light heavy was extremely good but I wouldn’t classify him as Atg. His first bout in the division was against Mike Mccallum a career middle guy and not a true light heavy. And he was old. Roy carried him I believe. Then Roy lost his second fight in the division in a highly competitive bout with Montel Griffin where a clearly frustrated Roy cheap shotted Griffin twice while he was taking a knee. Jones came back and got perfect revenge with a second round ko in the rematch. Then the brilliant body shot fight with Virgil hill. Then I believe Roy got dropped in his next bout and began to fight lesser guys in the division for the rest of his run. He never faced Maske or Micheweski. He started fighting guys like Richard Frazier, Richard Hall, Telesco, Clinton woods. Then he jumped to heavy and we all know what happened when he came back down.
    When great athletes fight less than elite competition they tend to look spectacular and Jones did just that For large part of his run in the division. So even wiping away his losses post coming back down to the division (where he was still younger than Arthur is now) it’s not an easy fight for Roy. 50/50 imo. Beterbiev looked real good tonight taking apart a big light heavy. End at age 37. Excellent win