Head to head, Is Luis Ortiz the best southpaw heavyweight of all time?

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  1. Mistadobalina

    Mistadobalina Member Full Member

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    There just seems to be so few of them.
     
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    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WTF....
     
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  3. Your Mum

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    Usyk is already better. Fury would also school him just fighting southpaw. In fact Dillian Whyte would be him in his southpaw stance. Ortiz is useless
     
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  4. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Not even close. Grandpa Ortiz is perhaps the most overrated southpaw ever, as well as being among the most overrated HW contenders, period!!
     
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    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    I rate Chris Byrd higher than Ortiz
     
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    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Just another thread attempting to boost Wilder’s resume.

    “Wilder beat the greatest heavyweight southpaw in history” bs:lol:
     
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    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk after 3 fights..., Michael Moorer, Chris Byrd are all definitely better. I don't really know if Ortiz is better than Ibragimov or Chagaev. Tough to say with his absolutely barren resume...
     
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  8. Mistadobalina

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    Moorer with the best resume would be crazily undersized.

    Ibragimov
    Corrie Sanders
    Byrd

    The best ones I can think of off the top of my head.

    Edit: totally forgot about Usyk. Oh well
     
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  9. Mistadobalina

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    Don’t care for wilder, sorry. The post is literally just an attempt to brainstorm the historical, southpaw heavyweight roster.
     
    Mistadobalina, Jun 21, 2022
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The funny thing is Ortiz and Usyk share a common opponent in Epifanio Mendoza

    A 1-0 Usyk was able to stop Mendoza legitimately in 4 rounds and drop him twice

    14-0 Ortiz couldn't even drop Mendoza, let alone get him out of there in 4 rounds and could only win on a DQ7
     
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    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Audley #1, all else shall tremble before him.
     
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    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does OP not know that Usyk is a southpaw…?
     
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  13. ShortRound

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    Usyk is the best southpaw heavyweight H2H.

    Ortiz at his best is probably 2nd, his competition is Moorer, Byrd, Sultan, Sanders, Chagaev, Thompson, Wallin. Jalolov and Kossobutskiy among up and coming HW's.
     
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    doesnt that guy have 0 good wins and got dropped by charles martin jabs?
     
    Presenting-Fight-Film, Jun 21, 2022
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  15. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Lot of things OP doesn't know.
     
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