Heavyweight boxer as the greatest P4P boxer ever?

What if she looked like Andre the giant?

 

Eddie Futch had developed essentially a style of fighting intended on defeating Ali. Eddie Futch was kicking Ali's ass as almost much as his fighters. Futch trained Frazier, Norton, Holmes, and Berbick. Even as a huge Ali fan, Norton arguably should have won all 3 encounters. Frazier and Norton dominated Ali unlike anyone else.

If Eddie Futch trained prime Duran, maybe he'd win. But a prime Duran fighting his style against prime Ali? Duran would not have the power to keep Ali on the canvas and could not KO Ali. In his career Ali would face Liston, Foreman, Lyle, Shavers. If Foreman, Lyle, and Shavers couldn't bomb out a post exile Ali... how will Duran? how would Duran ever outpoint the most fleet-footed and evasive heavyweight in history? Best case scenario it goes the distance and Duran is given a standing ovation for getting absolutely pieced up for 15 rounds by the greatest jab in history. Ali wins by unanimous decision. Duran goes to the hospital to have both his arms popped back into their sockets after missing so many power shots on Ali.

 

Michael Spinks should enter the competition for "the greatest P4P boxer ever", because he is the first and only current lightweight champion, who challenged and defeated the heavyweight champion.

 

Cause those men (except Shavers, who's overrated) were not able to land big power punches on Ali, Duran would land.

 

I agree with you regarding a prime Duran/Ali match up but doyou reckon Norton and Frazier would have had as much success against a quicker pre 1967 Ali?

 

In my opinion Norton and Frazier would still give prime Ali trouble. Futch knew how to topple a giant...

[insert Max Schmeling 'I see something.'] . Futch just knew how to crack Ali's defense and smother his work, and his fighters exemplified this.

Ali would still have many similar weaknesses even with his agility and reflexes intact. Although I would bet on a prime Ali to win against both Norton and Frazier in their respective primes.

I really just can't see Duran finding his distance against Ali. Nor can I see Duran landing on Ali's chin to any effective degree. Ali has the better jab. Duran can infight but Ali will just protect his head while Duran exhausts himself attacking the body. Duran would probably take a beating from Ali off the counter while he spends much of the fight trying to close the distance.

 

Duran would have murdered Ali with hooks, he was more offensively skilled than Frazier and Cooper and had a very good defense too, he was better than anybody Ali beat p4p.

 

Duran`s jab was brilliant against Ray in their first fight and he was great at slipping the jab too.

 

Duran would land but Ali was badly faded when he met Shavers.

 

Jones did the same thing and Spinks didn`t look great at heavyweight, he was far better at 175.

 

Ali would whoop Duran 9/10 times. Duran doesn't have the chin or the power.

 

lol! Chin? Hagler had far more power P4P than Ali and Duran would hurt Ali leaving him retreating and covering up on the ropes, he`d bully him.

 

Well Hagler and Duran are two different beasts. Stylistically I think Duran is at a disadvantage against Ali and would struggle immensely to close the distance. Hagler wouldn't, bro could just leap across the ring in a few steps with that Gazelle jab. God I love Hagler's jab. Duran could not. I repeat Duran COULD NOT hurt Ali lol. Or bully Ali. that is hilarious.

 

Well, if this is about p4p and we assume they are the same size, then there won't be any distance for Duran to close.