Judging from Bill's avatar, Holmes seems to have been using some sort of growth hormone that made his hands grow huge while simultaneously shrinking his head like a peanut.
No, those would belong to a fat, 'roid taker like Foreman... You know, the guy that was afraid of Holmes
In Spinks' defense, I'm sure he was "cutting" to make 175 lbs. Meaning he could have a realistic weight between 185 and 190 on fight night. He could have been dieting to get to 185 or 190. He may not have put on 15 lbs. of solid muscle. That might be drawn a little out of proportion.
No but it is what it is, and the world as it is. I don't condone it, I hate it. But if your, say a triple AAA ballplayer getting by on hard work, but can't get to the majors and the big contract and pay. And the others around you are by juicing and getting that deal, well what are your options. Same thing in boxing, if your better than the other fellow, but he has better Strength, endurace etc. and your now overmatched. What to do for that competitive advantage. Your kind of in the, I have to also realm to succeed. If the folks around you are getting ahead by not playing by the rules, what do you do. Doesn't make it okay in boxing or any sport. but sadely it is what is going on.
Some of those mentioned here used PEDs. But there are many erroneous, illogical, unfair & unscientific statements made on this thread. 1) That steroids are fine to use constantly?!? We do not even know how much damage periodic & lower doses might cause. No ethical studies can be completed. We do know of massive consequences for many-look up youtube videos such as "36 prominent bodybuilders who died in 2021" Many young. 2) They may well shrink your testicles, not *****. Due to dependence on outside sources of male hormone, & estrogen blockers are needed to counter a rebound effect. 3) It is crazy to just cite advantages & incentives to using-while disengenuously & cluelessly leaving out the opposite-ethics, health concerns, fear of exposure, fear of health effects-& think you can say almost everyone uses. OR estimate with confidence how common they are. You CANNOT. 4) You cannot merely look at weight gain-especially when very young-or muscularity & assume guilt. Sure they get too big too fast, especially when already somewhat developed, or get pro bodybuilder sized, fine. But how many times must I repeat that people changed divisions dramatically & some were very large even BEFORE steroids were invented? Langford, Carnera, & others either competed from lower to higher divisions or like McVea were near Tyson sized before they even knew how to maximize size from lifting & nutrition! 5) Then I hear vague statements that even though a Tyson was a freak, he somehow This content is protected used because others did & eventually wanted an advantage... No, he *may* have, but that is not any kind of rational evidence. Things cited like against McNeeley: his weight & body fat was not much different than it had been for years. Ali? He matured & filled out through his teens & early 20's never looked at all "pumped" nor had anything suspicious about his look or total mass... Yet someone tells us that it is naive that he did not us That would be insane to believe even if he came around in the 1990's! 6) Byrd lost weight fast so he must have used? You gotta be kidding me. It is exponentially easier to shed weight than gain muscle. Tons of young kids lose weight rapidly for sports like wrestling, without even diuretics. Also Byrd was not naturally big to begin with. To lose muscle too & become more what he would have been without a lot of work-& recently was around 160 looking unimpressive trying to make a comeback-does not need any artificial help. Let's get a collective grip. Some of these guys used. But i personally know some folks who are relatively huge & worked for it-althogh it is also largely genetic potential. Also sometimes a guy uses & whether it is the nature of the drug-like just maximizing strength not bulk, or EPP/for endurance, OR he never used it very effectively... And you will not know. The throughline is some of you think you know more than you do. Even at the expense of being reasonable & fair to those who do NOT cheat & lie.
What makes you think Lewis or Rahman was on rounds? Neither of them were shredded and never tested positive for any banned substances
