Sonny Liston TKO 1 Wayne Bethea 1958

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 Officer Full Member

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    See ya later Mr Wayne!
     
  2. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  3. SuzieQ49

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    i get that saying from this video
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    go to 10:17 :lol:
     
  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I was thinking in terms of a line Sonny would deliver as a Batman villain.
     
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  5. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Incredible, Liston's speed seems to be superior to his 1960 efforts.

    He should have been champ that year imo. Neither Johnannson nor Patterson would have had a chance.
     
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  6. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't Sonny knock out all this guy's teeth?
     
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  8. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    What impressed me so much about Liston in this one was his accuracy. Before the first knockdown I believe Liston connected with seven straight to the head and then he did just about the same a bit before the ref stopped it.

    While Bethea wasn't a great fighter he was a tough guy. He lost to Folley twice, Valdes, Machen, Williams, Mildenberger twice and Cooper but Liston was the only man to stop him.
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    I also believe it was the first and only time Bethea was ever dropped. As impressive a first round KO as you will ever see.

    I'm always a bit dubious as to claims of loss of teeth (if any and/or number claimed) - through boxing history there has been many such claims, some flatly debunked - example, true or not, Willard denied losing teeth vs Dempsey. However, this one is possibly the most believable and likely true claim.

    Note how very carefully the ref takes out Bethea's gum shield, gives it a very slight shake and looks into it - then appears to be holding it with care, as if some of Bethea's teeth were left inside perhaps. Nasty.
     
  10. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Angelo Dundee was scouting Liston as Ali's trainer/matchmaker. Angelo said that Sonny knocked out a guys teeth with a jab. Some of his teeth landed right in front of Dundee.
    I doubt he put that detail into his report when it was time to tell Ali was he was up against.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

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