Sonny Liston TKO 1 Roy Harris 1960

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 I’m become seeker of milk Full Member

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    Punching above your weight, It only takes a basic amount of knowledge to see he knows what he’s talking about. Yourself and many who have never actually been on the boxing scene on any significant level should listen. Also at least quote what someone said rather then just saying it.
     
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 I’m become seeker of milk Full Member

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    Even if it’s not an impressive win I think you can learn just a little from everything. I can’t, I’m not clever enough. It could be if you look close enough that Sonny might try something different on someone he knows he can beat? Was this a keep busy fight? Maybe he might be working on something here you’ll see later. I don’t know.

    None the less when you look at the short and recent history of fighters before him, I think It’s understandable how they drew comparisons to a descending Joe Louis sort of domination, check me on this, consistency (context ignored) wasn’t the strong suit of previous champions? (Bar Rock) Liston for what he was dominated the men around him consistently.
     
  3. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "it only takes basic amount of knowledge"

    to see Sonny Liston = impressive. formidable force & excellent heavyweight world champion & skill boxer.
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Is he really ? Dude has to be around 90 now
     
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  5. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At the time Roy Harris fought champion Floyd Patterson (August 18 1958) he was a school teacher. So he became an attorney.
     
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  6. billyb71

    billyb71 Member Full Member

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    Born in 1933. 89. He still practices law out of his home.
     
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  7. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    If that's the case, then he is an amazing fellow. Call me ageist but I'd still like to have a good talk with Roy to get a "confident" feel about him before hiring him as an attorney.
     
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  8. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    I agree but not because of his age. I wouldn’t trust the mental faculties of ANYBODY hit by Liston be it 90 or 9 :lol: :lol:
     
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  9. Jason Thomas

    Jason Thomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think some have overly criticized Harris. I don't think he was afraid. Or totally untalented.

    He just got caught, as Patterson did twice against Liston, Schmeling in the 2nd Louis fight, or Machen by Ingo. I don't think it fair to jump to the conclusion he could not fight at all.

    At a bit over 6' and 195 he was a decent sized heavy for the time. He could box and move. I think he had good fighting spirit. Off his overall career, he had a decent chin. His obvious weakness was he didn't have the punch to hold off someone like Liston. I can't see him ever handling Liston, but there are a lot of big, slow moving heavies he would have out speeded and out pointed.
     
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  10. Pat M

    Pat M Active Member Full Member

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    Don't know if Harris was "untalented" or not, he looked under trained. His elbows were out like wings, away from his body, his right hand was in front of this body, so he couldn't have much power in the right. He also fought too "squared up." His footwork didn't look good, he looked off balance, he lunged in, he lacked boxing fundamentals. If Harris had trained in Philly or NYC in the 50s-60s he would probably have much better fundamentals and then we would know if he had the necessary talent to fight Liston. As it was, he was the smaller, weaker man who was also less fundamentally sound than his opponent. Not a winning formula.
     
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  11. michael mullen

    michael mullen Active Member Full Member

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    From Cut And Shoot Texas!
     
  12. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 Officer Full Member

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    Harris easily outboxed Willie Pastrano
     
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  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    When Liston was good he was scary!
     
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