Let's settle it once and for good. Do you think Wilder has a legitimate body of work for a champion?

AJ Vs Wilder should of happened.

 

Joshua's an Olympic gold medallist. Wilder only scraped bronze.

Do one.

 

Spell medalist right. And He was slapped all over by Wlad.

 

I guess even if you compare him to former OKish beltholders like Ibragimov and Chagaev his resume isn't that bad.

Who did Ibragimov beat? Old Evander, old and asthmatic Briggs, Lance Whitaker, draw with Austin.

Who did Chagaev beat? Old Ruiz, Valuev, Kali Meehan and Matt Skelton. That's not too hot.

 

Who? Wilder? Why are you bringing that up?

 

Wlad and Wilder never fought, Give your head a shake.

 

They sparred and Wilder got his turds pushed in. This is very public knowledge.

What else were you referring to?

 

Sparring is only sparring. He also isn't the best Heavy of his era, big Bro would do him up real nice and KO him.

 

Yep. Exactly.

That's one of the reasons I always thought of beltholders as glorified contenders until they unify.

 

If you hear Hearn or some other promoter saying "we only want 50-50 fights on our shows" and then you look up the odds and see a wall of:

10-1, 25-1, 20-1, 5-1, 8-1 etc.

You should know that you're being conned (if you have a functioning brain).

 

When you say "how is this guy rated top 10" it's either meant to be some kind of humour or it's sheer absurdity. Whyte was recently rated as a "top 5 heavyweight", mainly on the back of his "resume" aka his controversial wins over Chisora, Parker and his legit win over jellyfish corpse Povetkin (who along with green AJ KO'd him cold in their first fight). Name 10 or even 5 fighters in the division with better records than Wilder, it's just silliness.

 

Arreola was well past it apparently but 5 years after Wilder schooled and stopped him easily and coming off 21 months of inactivity he gave an in shape (by his standards) Ruiz a very tough fight over 12 rounds, dropped him, hurt him multiple times.

Liakhovich was shot to bits when Wilder sent him into a spasm inside 2 minutes but he was...back to his best when he gave Ruiz a hard fight over the 10 round distance more than a year later?

Molina upset the odds in his very next fight, KO'ing Adamek in Poland. For this he was deemed worthy of being one of AJ's world title challengers.

Washington KO'd Jerry Forrest in 2 rounds when both were green but the win has aged well: in Forrest's next fight he went the full 8 rounds with Hunter and he's been giving a good account of himself as a high level journeyman ever since. Washington also upset the odds against Chambers in a shutout and Helenius by KO post-Wilder.

The argument isn't that these and others were stellar opponents but time has shown that they were definitely underrated.

 

The "coked up has been" would have "schooled" pretty much everyone (if not everyone) in the division by a wider margin. If Fury didn't feel confident that he was in good enough shape after just over a year back in training and two warmup fights to beat a very dangerous active long-reigning champion then he wouldn't have taken the fight. Wilder had Fury down twice, the fight could have easily been called off with the 2nd KD. It was hardly a typical schooling.