I agree :good Ps. Thanks thread stealer for the info on Pep not throwing a punch, dont think it affects his ranking but cheers anyway. I also have massive respect for Whitaker, he is 1 of my favoutites & does make my personal all time top 10 p4p but he is 2nd in boxings history to Pep in a defensive manner IMO. I rank Pep 1-5 & have Pea 6-10 in my p4p all time list just for the record. :thumbsup
............."Rooter??" PLease tell us the story behind this. What happened, ya get your account deleted or something?
Willie Pep was head and shoulders over Camacho, Whiaker, they were good but Willie fought his 1st 60 fights without a loss and did not lose his 2nd fight until he was 134-1-1......the fighters he beat in his era like Chalky Wright were great fighters
Whitaker would have had 60 fights without a loss if he was faced with the same quality of opponents at lightweight. And Pep sure ain't head and shoulders above Whitaker in terms of boxing skill.
I agree, you can't rank Pernell higher than top 15 of all times. If he fought slightly better competition and was tested more against b+ and a- fighters, he would have a case to be better accomplishments wise, he didn't and thats the end all to be all.
If Whitaker faced Saddler I'd bet my house on it that he wouldn't be finishing the fight looking like the Elephant Man as Pep did.
Lucky for some to have more than one house Pep was still very good but not in his prime after the plane crash in the Saddler fights. Whitaker not in HIS prime or even in it could very well suffer the same fate vs Saddler (if they weighed the same) as Sandy was 1 of the ATGs aswell. Pep never lost to no bum in there & HE DID give SS a boxing lesson of which he`d never had or would ever have again in his life to win the rematch. No other 126 lber in history could do that to Saddler, who was a complete monster of a FWT. Pep was the greatest pure boxer & FWT who ever lived. :thumbsup
Whitaker was better at fighting off the backfoot than Pep, which is why he'd have dealt with a Saddler type better.
Had a better inside game and was more resilient too, though the fact hat he liked to get down and dirty on the inside might be a disadvantage here with Saddler. Personally, I think avoiding all inside exchanges and using lots of lateral movement is the best way for a boxer to beat Saddler. Taking Saddler on at his own game is a great hazard.