If Usyk retired today, would you consider him an ATG?

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Is usyk already an ATG?

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  2. No

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would say with a bullet. Undisputed cruiser and unified heavyweight Champ in 19 fights, doing it all in the other guys hometowns, without a single controversial fight, or even having to get up from a knockdown.

    Based on his level of competition and demonstrated ability beating them, I would say he would be pretty first-tier.
     
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    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Yes, but he’s getting stopped in the rematch
     
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    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My very good friend...I am going to disagree on that one. I picked Usyk to win the first, and I sure am not changing horses now.
     
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  4. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As a Cruiser yes. Absolutely.
    As a heavy, no. Not if he retired today. Winning a title and never defending it is a bad look. It's not as bad a Roy Jones' cherry picked heavyweight title since Usyk actually has some wins at heavy and won the belt from a legit threat of a belt holder, but I think he needs to actually defend the title to make heavyweight ATG.
     
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  5. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    But he is defending it you numpty, against the guy he took it off...
     
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  6. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is he defending it today?

    No. He is not...I guess you the real numpty.
     
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    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    He didn't need heavyweight to be an ATG - he was clearly an ATG at cruiser already.

    Even if he's not 100% in the rematch and somehow gets sparked, he's still an ATG (and not that it matters, AJ's record is such that it wouldn't be a disgrace to go 1-1 with him).
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you think he is at cruiser, then he is.
     
    catchwtboxing, Jul 3, 2022
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  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    No first he needs to KO AJ and Fury on the same night whilst juggling 5 balls wearing a mankini
     
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    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would appreciate it if we can take this seriously and keep it rational.
     
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    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    Of course he is not defending it today, but your points are actually pointless, lets judge the man when he does retire and then compare him, i suspect he will do far better than most would expect, including many successful defences of the HW title.
     
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  12. snake33

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    Cruiser yes - Heavy no (nowhere near)
     
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  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    irrational questions provoke an irrational response.

    :flamethrower2:
     
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  14. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok, but that was not the question. The question was "if he retires today".
     
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    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But there was nothing at all irrational about the question, and as of now, he is winning the poll handily.
     
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