Saensak Muangsurin vs Guts Ishimatsu: Was it the hook or the bodyshots that finished Guts?

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Have a gander. I'll let you decide. This entire fight has Saensak firing a lot of sneaky rear hands to the pit, really cool viewing. Saensak has a visually appealing way of shooting I like and a neat little jab. I'd suggest this as a short one to enjoy. If I am getting my timelines right Guts was coming to the end of his career and Saensak was at the height of his powers. (Sorry Boxrec ain't working) Anyways, the question remains what part of the final sequence takes Guts out? I believe he'd have gone down without the hook and it was the delayed reaction you get at times from a good one down stairs.

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  2. Richard M Murrieta

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    Saensak Muangsurin was stopped by Tommy Hearns on Oct 18 1979.
     
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    Sadly, So do you think the bodyshots or the hook took out Guts in the bout?
     
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    Both, Muangsurin could hit, an accumilation of those shots seemed to take the starch out of Guts Ishimatsu, who had also been kayoed by WBA Lightweight Champion Roberto Duran in 1973.
     
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  5. Rope-a-Dope

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    I feel like it was the left at about 4:20. Hard too see how hard it hits from that angle, but I think that was it, and after that Guts was doomed.
     
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  6. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I have to go to work and don't have time to answer this now but I just want to say that it is great to be in a forum where A. this kind of relatively obscure question gets asked and B. people answer the question seriously and intelligently.
     
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  7. Woller

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    As I see it it was the body shots that stopped Ishimatsu.
     
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