Liston v Marciano's Top Opposition?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Liston73, Jul 6, 2022.


  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Compare what Johnson was doing over the timeframe of Jeffries winning the title.

    8 fights in Jeffries was drawing with an experienced top contender in Joe Choynski

    8 fights in Jack Johnson

    10 fights in Jeffries was beating a shot Peter Jackson

    Jack Johnsom 10 fights in was getting knocked out by a shot Joe Choynski

    12 fights in Jeffries beat Tom Sharkey

    12 fights in Johnson was drawing with Mexican Pete Everette

    13 fights in Jeffries beat Bob Armstrong while his hand was broken

    13 fights in Johnson was losing to Hank Griffin

    14 fights in Jeffries becomes world champion by knocking out Bob Fitzsimmons

    14 fights in Johnson is drawing with Hank Griffin

    15 fights in and Jeffries beats Tom Sharkey again

    15 fights in Johnson is beating Joe Kennedy

    17 fights in and Jeffries beats a former world champion in James J Corbett

    17 fights in and Johnson draws with Hank Griffin again.

    I could add more, but I think it's clear enough. If this "what they did x fights in" is any way to rate a fighter, then Jack Johnson is a joke compared to Jeffries. We are literally comparing one of the fastest moved heavyweights in history in Jeffries to a relative late bloomer in Johnson. And no Johnson's win over Burns was not more impressive than Jeffries beating Fitz. Burns beat a Middleweight in O'Brien, Marvin Hart, and a bunch of 3rd raters. Fitz was levels above him beating Corbett, Ruhlin, Sharkey etc.
     
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  2. GoGoGadget

    GoGoGadget New Member banned Full Member

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    If no talent 185 pound Rocky Marciano could beat these people then Sonny Liston would destroy all of them easier.
     
  3. Liston73

    Liston73 Active Member banned Full Member

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    I'll be happy to debate with you on this subject on a different thread if you want to make one. I'm not comparing Marciano to Liston as regards greatness whereas you seem intent on driving in that direction.Johnson and Jeffries have absolutely no relevance to this thread.