Fighters who may have never existed...

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  1. Tockah

    Tockah Ingo's Bingo Full Member

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    It's the same idea as some would argue Socrates or Shakespeare weren't real and were literary and figurative figures.

    This subject fascinates me, I'm sure this topic may have been discussed before but does anyone have some conspiracies? Is there any boxer who was created to pad other fighters records at the professional level? Are there any legendary fights claimed to have happened but we have no record of from press or judges? Anything of this sort?
     
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Greb isn’t real. Greb is simply a tool used by old timers to eternally scoff at the younger generation. His stats could only be the work of fiction.
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Khaosai Galaxy didn't exist.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    There's a strong rumour about a Dempsey-Johnson showdown that is obviously nonsense.
     
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  5. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopefully, the James Webb Space Telescope will soon get us some clear pictures of the Khaosai Galaxy.
     
  6. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

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    Rocky and Apollo had that fight at the end of Rocky 3 who knows if it really happened
     
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  7. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    75% of all fighters are man made robots beneath the clay
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Well, we all know Harry Greb is a myth. Even those photos of him are of just some random guy off the street.
    It was all a rumour started by Tunney, I tell ya!
     
  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Spot on fella.
    Greb is on the same page as santa and the tooth fairy..
     
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  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When Oleg Maskaev fought Oliver McCall on Fox in 1996, he was billed as 15-0.

    The problem was he may have been only 6-0.

    Granted, this was back when former Soviet fighters turning pro was still a new thing. Sometimes, their records were a bit sketchy.

    I've often wondered who the other NINE guys were that were included on his record which was passed off to the network. Who knows, he may have fought NINE other fighters.

    Maskaev was a very good amateur. He beat Vitali Klitschko in the amateurs.

    In his pro debut, Maskaev reportedly faced Alexander Miroshnichenko, who won the Bronze Medal in the 1988 Seoul Olympics (Riddick Bowe defeated him).

    Most quality amateur boxers turning pro don't face an Olympic Bronze medalist in their pro debut.

    That seems to be a tough opponent ... even for his 10th pro fight it would be tough (if he actually faced nine fighters before). Maskaev also fought Nicolai Kulpin before McCall, and Kulpin was an experienced amateur as well. I have some of his amateur bouts.

    Later, Miroshnichenko died by either falling down nine flights of stairs or he was tossed out the ninth floor window of his apartment building (I've heard both ... although I'm not sure how you fall down nine flights of stairs on your own).

    Maybe the other NINE opponents no longer on Maskaev's record fell down the stairs, too? :dunno

    Either way, I always wondered who those NINE other boxers were. Because, shortly after the McCall loss, they weren't on Maskaev's record anymore.

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  11. Holmes77

    Holmes77 Member Full Member

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    Stanley Ketchel would have beat Jack Johnson if he wouldn’t have slipped and fell
     
  12. Woller

    Woller Active Member Full Member

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    Do not forget the story of the "Famous" heavyweight fighter Sol "Naser Boy" Naserman who had a winning record of something like 19-0 with 19 ko´s, He was just a hoax! but well done.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Tommy Riley 27-0 with 24 knockouts golden gloves champ from Bridgeport when he fought “Black Death” and ruined Horn’s investment

    Luckily for him, Horn teamed up with Sharkey who had a marker on Riley’s dad for $ 15,000. So horn made back on his investment

    I always wondered how Tommy Riley would have done vs “Abraham” Lincoln in the finals had both men tried their best
     
  14. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If KBG visits and tells you he fell down nine flights of stairs, he fell down nine flights of stairs.

    End of story.
     
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  15. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    To secure the filmed match with Corbett, Peter Courtney claimed bouts he never had, including one with Bob Fitz, Bob later confirming that they never fought. Seeing the sweet moves of Peter on film, who would’ve thunk it? :eek:
     
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