Just curious as to any opinions on this. I understand that if something isn’t broke there’s no need to fix it. Also, you can’t just insert an additional weapon/stylistic accent to a fighter’s armoury without considering its potential to upset the fine balance and effectiveness of the whole. Also, some accents/weapons simply can’t optimally co-exist together. As to Ali’s preference for the head, he was likely driven to the more artistic nature of head shots - though hard core fans like us do appreciate great body punching - particularly when it paves the way for later attacking of the head. I recently watched Ali vs Terrell. For sure Ali gave Terrell’s head a good going over, the fast combos scintillating, but I couldn’t help but think how some nice scything body shots might’ve served to bring down Terrell’s high guard that he held throughout the fight - with Ernie’s body somewhat open to attack. Perhaps the most I saw Ali go to the body (and it wasn’t a lot absolute anyway) was vs Cleve Williams’. No mystery or coincidence that Big Cat’s post gun shot belly presented as a vulnerable target - alls fair in love and boxing. Could Ali have worked in a greater degree of body punching for better advantage without too much compromise to the optimal application of his varied arsenal otherwise?
I don't think he would benefit from throwing body shots because there was a valid reason why he didn't throw them. The way he thought - floating like a butterfly, usually on the back foot, basing on reflexes and stinging real fast when he saw the smallest openings - there was hardly any place to really plant his feet and drive a hook damaging enough under the ribs in that. You need a lot of power to hurt a guy with a body shot. Hardly anything Ali ever threw was hard enough and he knew that so he abandoned it almost entirely.
When Ali had legs, he had a very good jab to the body and sometimes threw hooks to the body. As said, the most he threw to the body was likely Vs Williams. Ali was taller than most of his opponents, going to the body with anything other than jabs, would mean being closer to his opponent, evening up the playing field. Ali preferred to outbox his man at a distance where he could hit but still slip, pull or dance away from return fire. There are times when he stands in range for body shots - Patterson, Chuvalo, Lewis but he doesn't throw body shots, preferring to show his defensive reflexes and throw flurries at the head.
He was mostly an outside fighter. Not a lot of outside guys go to the body well because the opponents head much easier to hit from range. Think about someone in a fighting stance. The head is forward over the body and when that person punches the head moves forward even more and is easier to hit from range. Conversely, an inside fighter is typically moving forward and not trying to establish range. They are underneath and in a much better position to land body shots which are typically hooks and uppercuts on the inside.
I think for Ali the problem would have been to throw a body shot he would have had to drop his body weight and that would make it harder for him to be evasive/light on his feet. He would often narrowly evade a punch by pulling back. Had he been a few centimeters lower because he was throwing to the body, he may not have been able to avoid those punches.
All very good breakdowns. There have been outside fighters who still punched effectively to the body at various times - some, like Ray Robinson, who Ali idolised and modelled himself on to some extent, worked nice body shots into his game and sometimes literally switched styles to fully slug - probably a stylistic versatility more easily practiced by the lighter, P4P greats, including Sugar Ray Leonard also. Actually, during the Terrell fight, Cosell notes to Chuvalo that Ali doesn’t go to the body because he didn’t want his pretty face messed up at all . A lot of truth there. LOL. As someone already noted here, there were occasions when Ali was in close proximity anyway, when he wouldn’t necessarily be reaching or putting himself at any greater risk to let some body shots go but still refused to do so. Certainly, in his second career, a less mobile, fast and reflexive Ali found himself in the trenches more often, whether he liked it or not. Even so, Ali still didn’t throw much to the body though Ali did actually throw a more than average (for him) amount of body punches in the second Bugner fight when Joe lent far back on the ropes, his stomach the only available target and sometimes Ali threw some shots in close - not a lot on the punches though.
Excellent points, exemplifying how greater accent on body punching would’ve compromised several other things Ali did so well - a net loss in the overall scheme of things.
He did go to the body a little more in his early bouts. He beat Donnie Fleeman with what the UPI described as "a devastating body attack that damaged his opponent's rib."
Excellent post and nice observation regarding the Williams bout. If one studies the bout, they can see Ali did things in that fight he never did in any other. Going to the body as you mentioned was one of them.
I thought that fight was stopped on cuts around the eyes and nose? Another interesting thing about Fleeman is he's said to have fought Sonny Liston though their is no official record of the bout. Fleeman himself said the following about the bout "I didn't know who he was except he was a monster, and I felt sorry for whoever was going to fight him. Then I go out to see my opponent. It was him [Liston]. I lost that fight sitting beside him...I was never knocked out. But Sonny Liston hit me so hard that if I had not got tangled up in the ropes, I would have been knocked out." Very strange