I’m positive Holyfield would’ve beaten Tyson in 91

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  1. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Moron with all your insults,troll quotes and fake accounts who report me I finally made my comeback and would reply to your pathetic arse every time and put your troll ass down.
    I stated that Shavers era was better and that we were talking about who faced better opposition no matter he win or lose!
    Shavers faced Norton,prime Holmes,Ali,Lyle,Quarry,prime Tillis,Bugner,Ellis,Young....
    Tyson faced washed Holmes,washed LHW Spinks,bums like Smith,Ruddock,Tucker,past prime Tillis,old Holyfield,Douglas,chin chin Bruno....
    Shavers faced better opposition and beat better guys and that proves I'm right stupid troll!
    Shavers lost at age 38 but against Tillis and Joe Bugner and gave them hell even won against Bugner but Tyson at that age?Lost against everyome he faced even bums Williams and McBride!
    Oy imbecile is you because only imbecile and troll could be a man who said that he could beat Jack Sharkey!

    Shavers while he was in decline decked and knocked Holmes cold bjt Holmes got up with slow count.If Shavers did that again Holmes would be knocked cold!
    Shavers knocked Holmes with oy single punch while Tyson did that with combos and more punches and even then he struggled and needed to knock him 3 times to finish him while Shavers did only with one punch against prime Holmes not the rusty Holmes Tyson faced.
    Again for stuoid troll here is what boxrec said:
    Holmes got to his feet by the count of 4 and grabbed the ropes as Cortez gave him the mandatory 8-count. Then Holmes shook his head several times to clear it and let go of the ropes as Tyson came forward.

    Tyson winged lefts and rights, trying to open up Holmes and land the finishing shot. A big right by Tyson sent Holmes lurching into the ropes and down again.

    This time Holmes was up at the count of 5.

    Tyson seemed intent on ending the fight, throwing and landing one punch after another, some of them causing Holmes's head to snap back. By now, ringsiders were shouting, "Stop the fight!"
    Shavers knocked Holmes with one overhand and Tyson needed accumulation against old guy and needs to put him 3 times down to keep him down imbecile.
    You are imbecile case closed!
     
  2. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Nope he didn't take steroids and was never tested positive while your hero was and came more jacked from prison!
    He was small HW when he faced Bowe but still gave him helluva fight.
    He didn't take steroids just bulk because he was unshape but instead of boxing training he lift weights very hard and got what like 10-12 pounds which is easy to gain without steroids!
    Yeah when ha made a comeback for first time and added weight with supplements and weight lifting which is easy!
    He added wbat 10-12 pounds right and he take steroids for that?That shows how really stupid you are imbecile!
    No one would take steroids for adding 10-12 pounds which you could add naturaly eith less cardio and more supplements.
    Holyfield was 212 for Stewart and 208 for Foreman.
    Holyfield beat Bowe worse moron and I could explain to you imbecile with simple facts:
    Holyfield noe is Healthy man even knowing he was smaller man and bigger Bowe is now punch drunk!Holyfield maybe lost third fight but won the war imbecile!
    Holyfield almost knocked Bowe cold in their second bout and when Bowe faced Holyfield for the 3rd time Holyfield was washed and unshaped because his first heart surgery imbecile.
    That proves Holyfield was better man!Oh what about Bowe cheatings?And Holyfield still beat him easier than Bowr beat him in first fight!Third fight does not mean anything since Holyfield was past his best and started to show decline.Again Holyfkeld maybe lost fight but won the war!
    For the first 2 minutes of the first round, Holyfield didn't land a punch as Lewis kept him at bay with a pawing jab. Late in the round Holyfield landed a left on Lewis's cheek. And at the conclusion of the round, Holyfield, pushed down low by Lewis, grabbed Lewis by both his legs and came up with him and almost spilled Lewis over on his back. Holyfield, who landed just 8 of 24 punches in the first two rounds, came alive in the third -- the round he had predicted he would knock Lewis out in -- He landed a left hook, a right and another left during one flurry and a big right hand in another barrage. But he missed on a looping right hand that would have spelled trouble if it landed. Lewis had survived the round and the fight was on. In the fifth round, Lewis landed a big right hand on the top of Holyfield's head as he was spinning away and then he pinned Holyfield on the ropes and caught him with some big uppercuts. Holyfield lay on the ropes for 45 seconds without throwing a punch and it appeared that he wasn't hurt too badly but was trying to lure Lewis into a trap. A small cut was opened on the bridge of Lewis's nose in the fifth round. Near the end of the sixth round, Lewis popped three stiff jabs in Holyfield's face. They were his snappiest jabs of the fight to that point. At the beginning of the seventh round, the fighters went down to the canvas in a grappling heap. And when they got up, Lewis sneaked in a sharp right hand that stung Holyfield. Lewis's jab was beginning to show telltale signs on Holyfield's swollen left eye by the seventh round. Midway through the 12th and final round, a chant of "Lewis! Lewis!" went up from the crowd. As he clutched with Holyfield in the waning seconds, Lewis raised his right hand triumphantly. And the O'Jay's song "Gotta Give the People What They Want" began blaring. On this ignominious night, no one got what they wanted, least of all Lennox Lewis.
    Holyfield was old and past his prime since he fought more quality opponents and fought more than Tyson.
    Only moron here is you!
    Again Holyfield was 37 years old when he faced prime Lennox who was 33 at the time and worked with Steart.Tyson was 36 and faced 36 years old Lennox who was also past his best.
    Again Holyfield was older than Tysin and fiught wars with Foreman whom Tyson cuedk,Stewart,Cooper,Mercer,Lennox twice,Douglas,Tillis,Moorer....while Tyson faced who?McNeeley and Buster Mathis moron!
    You have troll and the ine is called Johnny B with same name replying with boxingforum24 threads which you use on youtube to prove your hero would win just like cmoney!
    You replied few times with boxingforum24 links with Jake Lamotta threads and then said read this and this prove Tyson would beat...
    Troll I caught you because I am smarter and I dealt with guys like yiu several times and I am expert for puting you down!
    Many of them including judges thinks like me even people here!
    Everyone agrees that it was a drae and that Lennix and Steeart were mad and paid judges to win second time but it was clearly a robbery even crowd and Lennox himself proved that!
     
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  3. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Clueless and other troll quotes you can out in your ass!
    I read that and many people,crowd and judges belive that it was clear draw.
    Or you are mad because your biy got ass whooping by same Lennox and Holyfield did better at older age against younger Lewis.
     
  4. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    I am back and ready to dealt with Tyson fans army
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some people don’t understand the space-time continuum.

    The same people think Marvin Hagler was deteriorating while Ray Leonard was in a time-freeze chamber all that time he was out, actually maturing into a middleweight while staying 25 years old and getting sharper during his hiatus.
     
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  6. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Read the poll results you imbecile, you're alone.
     
  7. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Read the judges scorecards fool if you even know how to read
     
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  8. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    This thing about dependence on Kevin Rooney is called co dependence, part of mental health issues. A great fighter can do it himself, that is a mature man.
     
  9. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why ? In Lewis' and Wladimir klitschko's case Steward was an ideal and important trainer.
     
  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There seems some to be at least a couple of posters here who almost exclusively posts on Tyson threads. Is that the case with any other boxer?
     
  11. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Maybe so, but a lot of great fighters make their own adjustments, many are not dependent on just one man, in my profession it is called co dependence. Ali hardly listened to Angelo Dundee but I can see you are clearly offended by the truth about Tyson, another fan.
     
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  12. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hope it was a bad joke.
     
  13. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    There are also a lot of posters who post on Tyson threads and spout misinformation and can be classified as disinformation agents. Sh*t happens. :)
     
  14. mirexxa

    mirexxa Heavyweight Champ Full Member

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    you accuse Tyson of using PEDs but dont say nothing about Holyfield who is a known PED abuser. also Spinks weight in that fight was 212 pounds which is almost 40 pounds above light heavyweight
     
  15. Herbski

    Herbski New Member Full Member

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    Actually Holyfield is not a known PED user. Highly suspected, and most likely a PED user but it's never been proven.

    If I were to guess both of them (and pretty much all elite fighters since the 80s and possibly earlier) were on them