Tyson Fury's desperate attempt to fight Chisora again is cowardly

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury's problem is that he clearly wants a tuneup but - given how Tommy Fury wasn't allowed to fight in the US - it's doubtful Tyson will be allowed to in the near future, either, because of their close ties to the Irish mobster.

    So he needs to fight in Europe or the Middle East.

    If it's Europe, it has to be against a name who will take a small purse and still bring in large crowds so Fury can collect his normal $30-$40 million.

    Chisora fits the bill. But he apparently wants more than they are offering.

    Fury isn't trying help a buddy by giving him a nice payday. And Chisora is always going to demand more, maybe even up to the opening bell. He's done that with Hearn before. Chisora could demand more the night of the fight and refuse to enter the ring until they agree this demands. He's a wild card.

    They're just tossing his name out to see if the Brits will buy it.

    If they can get the Saudis to buy his next fight, they can fight anyone, but the Irish mobster is the guy who negotiates with the Saudis for him. So the Furys can't claim they aren't associated with the mobster anymore if he's putting the deal together.

    So they have tread lightly.

    I don't think he planned to fight in the UK again after Whyte. That was intended to be his big final fight there. And they broke attendance records.

    But if he can't fight in the US, and he doesn't want to appear to be associated with the mobster, he'll have to fight in the UK again.

    Any unifications will still take place outside the UK, likely in the Middle East.
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This doesn't matter, even a little bit.

    The very notion that a professional champion taking a soft final fight, or a soft fight and then a hard fight, is anathema.

    Fury's last three fights have all been fought in the heavyweight top 5. Now he will fight a fringe contender. Then he will retire or fight a real contender. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, on any level.

    Sorry, but there just isn't. Only on the internet has a problem with #1 contender, #2 contender, #3 contender, UNRANKED, retire/fight AJ/Usyk.

    Only the internet could possibly object to this run. There is zero issue here in reality.
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's been plenty of soft fights though Wallin, Schwarz, Seferi, Pianeta, and a pointless 3rd fight with Wilder that no one wanted to see. Ok the 3rd fight with Wilder looks better with hindsight because it had some exciting moments, but in all honestly Fury already dominated Wilder in their 2nd fight, so a 3rd fight at the time seemed like a waste of time. And during 2018-2021 period i'm sure there was more interesting fights available, rather than Wallin, Schwarz, Wilder 3.

    This argument only holds weight if indeed Fury does fight the winner of Usyk/Joshua, and we don't know that for sure. If he does indeed fight the winner of Usyk/Joshua then no arguments from me. But given how unpredictable Fury is he could decide to retire after the 3rd Chisora fight, and i think it would be a very disappointing end to a career, when he's on the verge of sealing the deal on his greatness.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, I don't care at all.

    1,2,3, what he does now is entirely up to him.

    If you're going back to 2018 and post-depression-retirment to mine your complaints, have a think about that.



    Of course, if Fury fights Chisora then Bummy McBum, you'll have something to complain about.

    Not that it will matter because you're complaining after him meeting with top 3 contenders exclusively in back-to-back fights and dismissing Wilder-Fury III, which generated about a million ppv buys and around $50m in prize money for the fighters as a fight "no one wanted to see."

    It's hard to know how to respond to something that wrong, frankly.
     
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  5. Jason Gordon

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    People defending this is incredible, and I like Fury.
     
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  6. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury is boring now.
     
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  7. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado banned Full Member

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    The third fight with Wilder made a lot of sense, because Wilder complained for months about the stoppage, and because Fury was almost KOed (and would have been, with an honest referee) in the first fight. Wilder always had a chance to win a third fight because of his massive one-punch KO power.

    But a third fight with a faded Chisora makes no sense - the last one was not competitive. If Fury wants a softer opponent for a stay-busy fight, there are lots of ranked contenders on the WBC list he could choose from.

    Only a sadist would enjoy watching Fury beat up poor old shop-worn Chisora again.

    Someone like WBC-ranked Bakole or Makhmudov would be better. Or, Fury could unify with Dubois.
     
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  8. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Give over.

    He's the champ too, so he should be fighting the highest ranked guys until he loses his belt.

    This is why MMA is so ahead of Boxing. The best fight the best.
     
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Interesting. He should be doing something not even Rocky Marciano managed to do until he loses the belt. Standards so high they have never been fulfilled in a meaningful reign, nice.

    u wot mate


    Seriously, why is everyone posting so wrong today?
     
  10. miniq

    miniq Tyson Fury Undisputed HW Champion 18/5/24 banned Full Member

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    Do people really care what this broken record has to say anymore? :sleep:
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not complaining about him fighting 3 top contenders, notice i never mentioned Whyte. As i'm one of the people that had no issue with that fight. Even though i don't rate Whyte very highly he's already been stopped twice by Joshua, 40 year old Povetkin, and i don't think he's that much better than Chisora, as evident by there two very evenly fought fights. But Whyte still had a decent run, even if he was less than convincing vs Parker, Wach, Rivas, etc.

    My issue is mainly during the 2018-2021 period being against Wallin, Schwarz, and Wilder 3 fight. Which i didn't think was needed as the point had already been proved in the 2nd fight.

    And as for the PPV numbers plenty of boxing fans complain about Mayweather's fights, but yet they still do huge PPV numbers. I'm sure this upcoming Mayweather vs McGregor 2 fight will sell huge numbers for the casuals, despite many boxing fans who follow the sport religiously calling it a joke and a waste of time. Fury is a massive draw and the most popular and charismatic Heavyweight in the world, whether you love him or hate him. And if he fought any top 10 Heavyweight i'm sure he would sell huge PPV numbers.

    Me personally the way i see it the 1st fight vs Wilder was a considered a robbery. And when Fury dominated and humiliated Wilder in the rematch, i didn't really see the point in a 3rd Wilder fight. But again i'm seeing this as a boxing fan, and not what fight gives Fury the most cash in his wallet. So maybe i'm seeing it wrong in that regard, but me personally i would of rather of seen another fight vs a top contender rather than Wilder 3.

    And lastly as i said before Fury's resume for me is still pretty thin, and needs to do some more convincing. And with Fury's unpredictable behaviour aswell as noted for not fighting often, it doesn't fill me with confidence that he will fight winner of Usyk/Joshua, after a pointless fight 3rd fight vs Chisora which i'm sure will also sell well regarding PPV's. Because of the personalities of both fighters.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    I understand.

    What Fury did before he matched the number 1, number 2 and number 3 contender on the spin means he can't fight Chisora now without drawing your criticism.

    Applied to the wider sport, I have no idea how you are able to enjoy boxing. Many champs do not fight three top three contenders in their entire careers and I personally cherish them.

    Your standards are higher. Fair enough...but not really.
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's fair enough to be honest you make good points, and i don't really disagree with anything your saying. And i don't want to seem like i keep quoting you, to be argumentative to keep the debate going.

    It's just me personally i think Fury has wasted quite a few years in his career, with a few questionable fights. Especially with the long hiatus due to personal problems. Me being selfish as a boxing fan, i would like to see if Fury is really the best before he finally bows out, and this pointless Chisora 3 fight doesn't get the juices flowing. Nor does it feel me with confidence that Fury will even fight winner of Usyk/Joshua.

    Looking at a perfect scenario if Fury fights the winner of Usyk/Joshua after Chisora 3, then no one can have any complaints. But i just think overall people are skeptical including myself due to Fury's erratic behaviour, it wouldn't surprise me if Fury even had another pointless fight after Chisora fight, or announced his retirement again.

    I guess let's just wait and see what future holds, if he fights winner of Usyk/Joshua then i'll overlook Chisora 3 fight. Until then though i'm going to question it and be skeptical about it.
     
  14. _Scott_

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    I'd rather watch Fury vs Haye than Fury vs Chisora III tbh
     
  15. navigator

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    The only desperate parties are the saps taking this elaborate gag seriously.

    I suppose Isaac Lowe is Fury's new trainer, too. Must be true, because SugarHill's playing along on social media. :lol:


    He's not boxing Chisora nor is he making any sincere attempt to do so.

    Issac Lowe won't be training him for his next bout.

    Anyone who believes otherwise is suffering from a deficiency of some kind or other.


    You've got to feel sorry for the anti-Fury mob at this point. The world's heavyweight champ has attracted quite arguably the most wretched, inconsolable, godforsaken group of haters of any I've ever seen following this sport. :lol: