LOL, so if a fighter wants to hit hard he just needs to invest in a heavier heavy bag? Why not just put a mattress against a solid wall? Would that be the ultimate in making a fighter hit hard? Most gyms used to have a variety of heavy bags, some smaller so the fighter would have to move and punch, some bigger so a fighter could just practice punching without having to move much. All fighters of all sizes used all of them and it was not viewed as a feat of power or strength to use the bigger bags. Today, many gyms have those heavy bag racks where the bags are close together, are attached at about 8' and have little movement. I still prefer bags that hang from a high ceiling and have a long chain. They'll move some whether they are 100 pounds or 300 pounds and the fighter has to move to hit them. But the building has to have a high ceiling. The size of heavy bags is just a preference and is often times dictated by how high the ceiling in the gym is, how much room there is for heavy bags, etc. Until I read some posts on this board I never realized that some people think using a heavy, heavy bag is a feat of power and strength.
give it try. if you like. I would say might be too much to use solid wall even padded. way to break hand or wrist too much for human yes heavier bag is investment everybody know heavy bag is good for develop power. all the old boxer & old trainer teach this. everywhere in world . who said feat? I did not suggest feat of power? this is not place for ego. the gym. Is a place to learn craft & develop. yes. Develop. Yes small fighter can use every weight bag also. it is not feat to have 400 pound bag. it is equipment for purposes specific yes I agree it has to be practical & the preference. for the space building of gym & safety . this is main thing
Marciano wins this fight if he gains 25 pounds of muscle. This fight in particular be would need to be heavier to stand on the inside w Mike…it’s not something I think he needs to beat other fighters bigger than Marciano like Holmes or Louis. Mike would throw him off balance to much weighing 188. I use Walcott 1 as an example as Joe was very aggressive being the bigger man and threw Marciano off balance w his roughing on the inside. Mike would beat him as they were. If Rocky gained the proper mass to stand toe to toe like Holy he out paces Mike for a late KO. As they were prime for prime have to give it to Tyson.
Hmmm Tyson struggled Jess Ferguson And others . Rock won't be afraid of Tyson and would come in close and fight . He has the power to hurt Tyson and stamina to push him all the way . How would young Mike react to being butted and elbows going in ? I would say not very well if Mike can't stop rock early this fight would turn into a nightmarish situation for him. A fighter now is unafraid hard hitting tough mentaly and physically and relentless. Possibly a similar fight to the first Holy fight.
Which person did rock fight who fought like mike for people to pick him i would say the closest would be Jersey who was great at catching people off guard with counters But then on the other hand he wasnt as polished as mike Wasnt as fast wasnt close to the power mike had wasnt as great at use of combos as mike So agian my question is who did rock fight who has all of these traits And Which lhw beat Mike since that's what rock would be facing mike
Tyson quits inside 10. Rocky's persistence, work-rate and lack of fear would be the difference - Tyson was a bully who folded when he couldn't have his way with an opponent. Tyson also couldn't fight on the inside. Rocky all day.
Like he folded against Ruddock, Bruno, and Tillis who all provided adversity to some degree? Also he won't have to worry about not having his way with an opponent who he outweighs by 30+ pounds, who's slower than him, not as powerful as him, not as skilled as him, with an inferior defense, who cuts easily, doesn't know the meaning of the word quit, and will willingly come into Mike's wheelbarrow.
Neither of those presented him with any real adversity, they didn't take the fight to him, they just did better than people expected them to. The only fighter that did in his prime was Buster Douglas and we saw what happened there. Tyson and Rocky were the same height, Tyson himself said that the punch Marciano hit Walcott with was possibly the hardest punch ever thrown. Rocky was a smarter fighter than Tyson, he knew how to deceive and bait his opponents, and he knew how to create openings for himself. Tyson relied solely on forward straight-line movement and was heavily reliant on a set of predictable stock combinations. Rocky didn't get hit clean, he kept his head to the side and he got very low, if you look at their careers (especially later) I think you'll find that Tyson takes more clean punches, Rocky was also far better conditioned and carried his power into the late rounds; the only KO Tyson has after the 7th round in his entire career was a bogus 10th round stoppage against Ribalta. Marciano fought with 6oz gloves, Tyson fought with 10oz so of course he got cut easier. The fight would happen on the inside and Tyson was weak on the inside. Rocky would tenderize him on the inside and keep wearing on him as the fight goes on until he finally gives in. When an opponent took the fight to Tyson, showed him no respect, really went on the offensive and didn't get discouraged after Tyson hit them we all saw what would happen.
How in the hell is Rocky going to take 10 rounds of Mike's offense with that tissue paper skin and a chin that was checked by lightheavies? Tyson KO2. Utter mismatch.
