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Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Aug 17, 2022.


Who wins?

  1. Shavers

    33.3%
  2. Johnson

    66.7%
  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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  2. BoxingFanOfIranianDescent

    BoxingFanOfIranianDescent Tony Galento was an African American boxer. banned Full Member

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    70's rules? Shavers.... Johnson never fought anyone nearly as hard-hitting or with as fast hands as most top 70's heavies, and going against the powerhouse of the decade is a ticket to a knockout. The style Johnson perfected would only seek to hurt him here with such vast changes in the sport. Johnsons come forward, chess game attitude, block/smothering, and main advantage in the clinches being of no use here. Shavers knocks him out by 4-5
     
  3. Glass City Cobra

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    Shavers was outboxed by an ancient Ali, the career journeyman James Tillis, and the very unremarkable Bob Stallings. I don't see it as inconceivable a cagey defensive veteran like Johnson could outpoint him. In fact, I would say if Johnson has time to get used to the new gloves and fights super cautiously without taking too much punishment, he may even school Shavers.
     
  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Eh, give Jack Johnson time to understand the rules and it’s a shut out.
     
  5. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnson outboxes and outpunches him like he did with Sam McVey.
     
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  6. VanBasten

    VanBasten Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnson fought Jeffries, Willard and Ketchel who were far from featherfisted.
     
  7. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Give Johnson 6mo to prep and spar under modern rules and it's going to be a blowout. Send him in cold, with 70s rules, he's getting KOd.
     
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  8. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnson, all day, evergy year, way smarter...
     
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  9. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shavers....by KO
     
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  10. BoxingFanOfIranianDescent

    BoxingFanOfIranianDescent Tony Galento was an African American boxer. banned Full Member

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    Johnson fighting six years retired, fresh off being morbidly obese Jeffries, LOSING to Willard (who could barely throw a combination beyond two punches and was only noteworthy due to his sheer size, stamina, and strength in the clinches), and the literal middleweight Ketchel who almost knocked him out doesn't mean he could hold up with the great power punchers of the 70's.
     
  11. VanBasten

    VanBasten Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, despite being much smaller he almost knocked out a much bigger opponent, hence, far from featherfisted. I think we're in agreement here?

    Regards the others, Jeffries was a mega puncher. Ring rust does not affect punch power. He might not have the stamina to last the entire bout or the reflexes to manipulate the fight and avoid punches but he'll still know how to punch. The last thing a boxer loses is his ability to throw a proper punch. It's like riding a bike, you never forget.
     
  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Jack should win.. But this is Earnie bloody Shavers!
     
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  13. BoxingFanOfIranianDescent

    BoxingFanOfIranianDescent Tony Galento was an African American boxer. banned Full Member

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    He certainly wasn't feather-fisted for a middleweight.... Keyword, MIDDLEWEIGHT. As for a completely over-the-hill Jeffries, tell me how many of his punches actually landed in that fight? Trying to use wins against a literal middleweight and six year retired grossly out of shape former champ (as well as a LOSS to big Jess) to prove that Johnson could take on arguably the hardest hitting of the superheavy powerpunchers of the 70's is hilarious at best.
     
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  14. Monnever

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    Easy win for earnie jack was horrible wouldnt last 1 min
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Johnson should win barring the proverbial punchers chance.