James Figg

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  1. mr. magoo

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    James Figg (1695[2] – 7 December 1734, surname sometimes spelt 'Fig'[3]) exhibited and taught methods of fighting with swords, cudgels and fists from a base in London in the eighteenth century. He is widely recognized as the first English bare-knuckle boxing champion, reigning from 1719 to 1730.

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    James Figg c. 1727–1729. The verses below read:
    The Mighty Combatant, the first in Fame,
    The lasting Glory of his Native Thame,
    Rash, & unthinking Men! at length be Wise,
    Consult your Safety, and Resign the Prize,
    Nor tempt Superior Force; but Timely Fly
    The Vigour of his Arm, the Quickness of his Eye.[1]

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    James Figg was born in Thame in Oxfordshire,[3]"during the reign of William III",[4] and fought his early prize fights there. According to one source, he came to the attention of the Earl of Peterborough, who was a "staunch patron of all brave and manly sports", and who brought him to London.[4] In 1719 he started his own school based at an amphitheatre in Tottenham Court Road, London, where he taught boxing, fencing, and quarterstaff.[3] In 1720, he was fighting at an amphitheatre in Marylebone near the Oxford Road (now called Oxford Street).[5] He also demonstrated his skills at booths and rings set up on parks and fields.

    In 1725, the poet John Byrom visited Figg's amphitheatre where, at a cost of 2s 6d, he saw Figg fight Ned Sutton. He reported: "Figg had a wound and bled pretty much; Sutton had a blow with a quarterstaff just upon his knee, which made him lame, so then they gave over".[6]

    In June 1727, Sutton had his revenge over Figg, beating him at his own amphitheatre. Figg was forced to withdraw, having suffered a wound in the belly and being "Cloven in the Foot".[7]

    On 11 October 1729, it was reported that Figg had been made gate-keeper to Upper St James's Park by the Earl of Essex.[8]

    In October 1730, it was reported: "yesterday the invincible Mr. James Figg fought at his Amphitheatre Mr. Holmes, an Irishman, who keeps an Inn at Yaul near Waterford in Ireland, and came into England on purpose to fight this English Champion". It was reported that during the bout, Holmes had his wrist cut to the bone and was therefore forced to retire. It was stated that this fight was the two hundred and seventy-first contest fought by Figg without defeat.[9]

    In December 1731, Figg contested a sword-fight with John Sparks before the vising Duke of Lorraine. Foreign ministers and Nobility were also stated to be in the audience for the fighting which took place at the New Theatre, Haymarket.[10][11]

    Although records were not kept as precisely at the time, the common belief is that Figg had a record of 269–1 in 270 fights. His only loss came when Ned Sutton beat him to claim the title. Figg demanded a rematch, which he won, and also went on to retire Sutton in a rubber match. After 1730 he largely gave up fighting, and relied on his three protégés to bring in spectators: Bob Whittaker, Jack Broughton, and George Taylor. Taylor took over Figg's business upon Figg's death in 1734, though Broughton went on to become his most famous protégé.[12]

    Figg died on 7 December 1734 and was buried in St Marylebone Parish Churchyard on 12 December of that year.[13] He left behind a wife and several children. [14]
     
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  2. cross_trainer

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    Boxing technique has evolved. I'm sure that even though none of them ever held a sword before, our superheavyweights would easily beat Figg in a swordfight under 18th century rules with their impressive modern-ness.
     
  3. mr. magoo

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    Of course !!!

    on a serious note, I bet some of those 18th century fights must have been both interesting and brutal.
     
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  4. Saintpat

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    Think how far fencing technique has evolved.

    In those days you probably had wooden fences with posts 10 to 15 feet apart and crooked cross-boards — maybe 2 or 3 spaced apart. Good for keeping a horse penned or maybe some pigs if you kept the lowest cross-board at ground level.

    Today we’ve got wire fences, steel bars, nuts and bolts and screws to really hold them together, fine mesh — not to mention concertina wire or razor wire, electrified fences. Heck we even have invisible fences for dogs that keep them away with a shock while you and I can walk right on by.

    It even says he was appointed a gate-keeper. That’s like being the Jesse Ferguson of his day. Champion indeed.

    As for sword-fighting, look at the scene in Indiana Jones where the guy pulls a scimitar on Indy and Jones just pulls a pistol and shoots him down.
     
  5. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imagine them going at each other with CUDGELS! I'm guessing there weren't many rematches with those things! :roto2lol:
     
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    Figg is regarded by some historians as boxing’s first heavyweight champion. But in truth I don’t think what men of his time did was “boxing.” I think it was actually just pure “ fighting.” From the sound of it, it seemed like anything goes. Including weapon usage.
     
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  7. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1714-10-13 The Daily Courant (London, England) (page 2)
    A Tryal of Skill to be fought at the Bear-Garden in Marrow-Bone-Fields the Backside of Soho-Square, at the Boarded-House, this present Wednesday, being the 13th of October, beginning at 3 of the Clock precisely, between John Parkes and his Brother, Masters of the Noble Science of Defence, against Timothy Buck of Clare-Market and his Scholar James Figg, Masters of the said Science.
     
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  8. Tockah

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    I agree, but I'd argue the beginnings of the sweet science were shortly around or following his time. I'm sure a guy like you has read Boxiana by Pierce Egan, but a guy like me hasn't yet, what I do know though is Mendoza is the considered by many to be the prototypical scientific fighter. I would argue James Figg holds the spot as arguably the first heavyweight mixed-martial arts champions of England.
     
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  9. Dempsey1238

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    And if Figg gets a hit in, our tougher superheavyweights skin would just bend or break those 1700's swords. Tyson could eat WW1 bullets shooting at him like candy.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    I haven’t read those writings but it sounds interesting. Good post
     
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    Oh man, they're quintessential, I think there are four volumes but I only own the first (reprint ofc). If you'd like i can photograph the section on figg and upload it, link to it here in the comments. It isn't against forum rules since the book is several hundred years old and public domain.
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    I think that would be something that a lot of us would be interested in. Perhaps start a separate thread on the topic. Over the years I have become increasingly more interested in ancient and obsolete forms of pugilism. James Figg is a character I’ve always been fascinated in.
     
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  13. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have no idea if it was, or not, but IF his name was actually James J. Figg, even modern Super Heavyweights would have their hands full! As we all know, James, with a "J" middle initial, has mystical powers that go far beyond pounds or kilograms of human flesh.
     
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    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. escudo

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    I was winning the boxing match until he broke my knee with a cudgel.
     
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