Better fighter: Usyk or Calzaghe

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Who is better?

  1. Usyk

    84.6%
  2. Calzaghe

    15.4%
  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Had a debate the other day about this. Fella was telling me that Joe's boxing was "like jazz" and that Usyk, while good, struggled with Chisora. He also mentioned that Joe took out two ATG's in their back yard.

    Which undefeated high volume southpaw is BETTER?
     
  2. Jason Gordon

    Jason Gordon Active Member banned Full Member

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    Usyk all day long
     
  3. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Calzaghe had hard fights aswell don't worry about that. Both are great though.
     
  4. MagicE

    MagicE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both great but Usyk is on another level to Calzaghe.

    IF Joe had done BHop and RJJ I’m their prime then would have been another story but he was too comfortable being a home boy
     
  5. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very tough question to answer. Both are incredible athletes and very skilled.

    Going to say Usyk. His defense is better. But it's a hard call.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It’s very easy to answer.
     
  7. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    I really enjoy how both of them fight. I am a bit of a Calzaghe homer as he is probably my favorite fighter ever, but even so I'll say Usyk.
     
  8. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins was in his prime.
     
  9. Goran_

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    Usyks more consistent.. Joe made some fights harder than they needed to be.. mainly down to hand issues.. but he also gave us an absolute masterpiece (Lacy) & beautifully shut down prime Kessler.. Recently watched the Brewer , Reid & Mitchell fights back too & they're all worth a rewatch.. Calzaghe at his best.. Grit, chin, engine, speed, angles, high output & punch variety & able to adapt.. Calzaghes footwork is underrated too.. but what I loved about Joe was even though he technically was an excellent fighter (ignore the slappy brigade, when he was healthy he was a class act to watch) he loved a tear up as well and would stand toe-to-toe.. I think prime Joe was a slightly more dynamic fighter than Usyk who coasts to decisions & rarely misses a gear or has a back & forth.. so probably Usyk but Calzaghe was class too.
     
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  10. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Aside from handspeed and maybe workrate, Usyk is better at everything. Is also more accomplished and has much more drive to be great.
     
  11. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I really struggle to consider any dude that's 43 years old in his prime. Not only that, the win wasn't even clear cut unless my memory's playing up on me. It was a sort of "it could go either way" affair...

    Whereas Usyk pretty much dominated multiple in prime champions, one in a weight class where fighters can massively outsize him. Usyk and not even close for me.
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At 40+ years old you what mate, although I agree Hopkins unlike most fighters at 40 was still good. But that win is also disputed for Calzaghe aswell.
     
  13. Goran_

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    only in your head & the haters, Hopkins was play acting & knew he couldn't win fairly & within the rules so grinded out the theatrics so he could stay in the fight & not get overwhelmed.. he was cheating.. plain & sinple.. awful fight but Joe deserved the nod.
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No actually it's a very debatable decision, only in "your head" it isn't. Hopkins scored a knockdown and won a majority of the first 4 rounds, and may of stole 1 or 2 rounds late on. It's nothing to do with being a hater, I don't even like Hopkins much as a fighter. I call it as I see it and it was a close fight, and I think most people watching it without biased would agree.
     
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  15. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe beat Eubank, Reid, Mitchell, Woodhall, Brewer, Lacy, Kessler, Bika, Hopkins, Jones Jr. All the above were world champions and in their primes with exception of Eubank and Jones Jr who were still operating at world level. Calzaghe definitely had the better resume.
     
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